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interesting spot in $5 2r1a stars

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  1. rtinnion rtinnion is offline

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    Jun 11th, 2012 (6/11/2012 1:30am)

    No reads on guy but seemed pretty aggro

    pokerstars Hand #81765352804: Tournament #569321755, $5.00+$0.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (75/150) - 2012/06/10 18:06:15 WET [2012/06/10 13:06:15 ET]
    Table '569321755 65' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 1: DanielSun10 (8267 in chips)
    Seat 2: hera1953 (8090 in chips)
    Seat 3: robtinnion (12245 in chips)
    Seat 4: ZamirS500 (9499 in chips)
    Seat 5: PROFEANU (8260 in chips)
    Seat 6: JainaP (15254 in chips)
    Seat 7: Anndreass (17175 in chips)
    Seat 8: DoePopoe (14700 in chips)
    Seat 9: SWJ87 (13290 in chips)
    DanielSun10: posts the ante 20
    hera1953: posts the ante 20
    robtinnion: posts the ante 20
    ZamirS500: posts the ante 20
    PROFEANU: posts the ante 20
    JainaP: posts the ante 20
    Anndreass: posts the ante 20
    DoePopoe: posts the ante 20
    SWJ87: posts the ante 20
    robtinnion: posts small blind 75
    ZamirS500: posts big blind 150
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to robtinnion [Qh Kh]
    PROFEANU: folds
    JainaP: folds
    Anndreass: folds
    DoePopoe: folds
    SWJ87: raises 180 to 330
    DanielSun10: folds
    hera1953: folds
    robtinnion: raises 420 to 750
    ZamirS500: folds
    SWJ87: calls 420
    *** FLOP *** [9d 8s 9s]
    robtinnion: bets 603
    SWJ87: calls 603
    *** TURN *** [9d 8s 9s] [5h]
    robtinnion: bets 825
    SWJ87: raises 1125 to 1950
    robtinnion: calls 1125
    *** RIVER *** [9d 8s 9s 5h] [8c]
    robtinnion: bets 2288
    SWJ87: raises 7679 to 9967 and is all-in
    robtinnion:sighs

    Just wanted to see what you guys would put him on here, tried to make value bet bluff to push off all the missed draws but sigh he jammed

    RT
     
  2. F1sherman F1sherman is offline

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    Jun 11th, 2012 (6/11/2012 2:28am) in reply to rtinnion

    9x

    You say no reads, but what gave you the idea he was aggro?

    As played, fold to turn raise. Also, a bet of 950 would have been about half the pot after the flop
    Edited By: F1sherman Jun 11th, 2012 at 02:34 AM
  3. rtinnion rtinnion is offline

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    Jun 11th, 2012 (6/11/2012 4:30am) in reply to F1sherman

    he opened 2/5 hands i had seen at the table, and c bet both

    what am i giving him credit for though?
     
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  4. F1sherman F1sherman is offline

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    Jun 11th, 2012 (6/11/2012 4:55am) in reply to rtinnion

    He's got plenty of 9's in his range, possibly an 8 or even 67, although I doubt he's shoving anything besides a 9 here. Then again, your bet sizing to me looks a lot like AK so he if he had a small pair and got counterfeited, he could be shoving as a bluff.
  5. djdoodoo djdoodoo is offline

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    Jun 11th, 2012 (6/11/2012 6:02am) in reply to rtinnion

    No reads but he "seems pretty aggro" is not even worth putting into the post.

    99, 88, 67, TJ, overpairs, overcards on flop.
    as he jammed river he's probs not sick enough to do this with air so going with the 88, 99, 67 or overpair.
  6. BenFaz BenFaz is offline

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    Jun 11th, 2012 (6/11/2012 2:31pm) in reply to djdoodoo

    no need to get fancy in a $5 mate especially in a 3bet pot check/fold turn
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  7. bazingaking bazingaking is offline

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    Jun 11th, 2012 (6/11/2012 5:57pm) in reply to BenFaz

    I say just give up on the turn and check to the villain after he called you on the flop, rather than double barrelling in a pretty deep pot. Definitely fold to villain's re-raise on the turn. His strength is too much just to put the randomer on a bluff, I'd just give the villain the benefit of the doubt, say he's got a full house or perhaps a straight but nearly definitely better than us.
  8. tyson219 tyson219 is offline Moderator

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    Jun 11th, 2012 (6/11/2012 6:08pm) in reply to bazingaking

    I would do pretty much everything different.

    Pre: Flat pre. If you're going to 3bet, 3bet more.
    Flop: Bet more on flop.
    Turn: Betting turn is mixed, 5h doesnt help his range but also doesn't improve your perceived range. If you're going to bet turn, bet more. As played, fold to turn raise.
    River: check/fold river. If you really want to bluff that river, you have to bet more than 1/4 or 1/3 pot. It's not really a good river to bluff though
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  9. PaulSmiley PaulSmiley is offline

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    Jun 12th, 2012 (6/12/2012 10:12pm) in reply to AmSlim22

    I agree with ben faz. I have played a lot of smaller stakes like this and at this EARLY stage you shouldn't be trying to get fancy.
    The 3 bet pre is fine with me and the c bet. If I took the line you take on the turn and then get re popped, IF for some reason I think this guys like you think he is I WOULD NOT ever float call this bet to try and hero or bluff value bet the river. MAYBE min reraise. then check fold river... But again your just getting yourself into this huge pot that you dont need to get into.
    Basically in general save this play for later on in the tourney where theres antes and you have seen more hands from this villain. Play your good hands well and give up MORE early. ESp in this tourney!
     
  10. rtinnion rtinnion is offline

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    Jun 20th, 2012 (6/20/2012 2:02am) in reply to PaulSmiley

    sorry forgot about this post, loocing bac through the sizings are a bit off (have been experimenting latley), and yeah this is a very spey line by no means standard was probably tilted or something at the time, i ended up thincing he flats river with ax, tt+ and shoves full house quads and air, and witht he texture of the flop/turn i decided draws were a big part of his range.

    *** RIVER *** [9d 8s 9s 5h] [8c]
    robtinnion: bets 2288
    SWJ87: raises 7679 to 9967 and is all-in
    robtinnion: calls 6634 and is all-in
    Uncalled bet (1045) returned to SWJ87
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    SWJ87: shows [Jc Qc] (two pair, Nines and Eights)
    robtinnion: shows [Qh Kh] (two pair, Nines and Eights - King kicker)
    robtinnion collected 24780 from pot

    [x] max value
     
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  11. IMLegend IMLegend is offline Is Bighaley21, Bighaley21 account is reactivated

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    Jun 20th, 2012 (6/20/2012 10:26pm) in reply to rtinnion

    Yes you won this hand but I really cant see how this is ever a +EV play against even the spewiest of players. Nice brag tho
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