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Interesting spot in the Sunday Brawl

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  1. Waters Waters is offline

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    Oct 12th, 2008 (10/12/2008 2:59pm)

    Only read I have from Jakris is from the first hand below...

    Full Tilt Poker Game #8458625076: The Sunday Brawl (62317891), Table 78 - 20/40 - No Limit Hold'em - 14:33:25 ET - 2008/10/12
    Seat 1: okdesign (2,825)
    Seat 2: Jakris (2,880)
    Seat 3: mrvogt (3,836)
    Seat 4: Waters81 (4,790)
    Seat 5: mezvinsm (1,544)
    Seat 6: driverseati (2,850)
    Seat 7: boremb (2,999)
    Seat 8: Patatoe (3,890)
    Seat 9: pockets0071 (2,331)
    mrvogt posts the small blind of 20
    Waters81 posts the big blind of 40
    The button is in seat #2
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Waters81 [7h Jh]
    mezvinsm has 15 seconds left to act
    mezvinsm folds
    driverseati folds
    boremb folds
    Patatoe folds
    pockets0071 folds
    okdesign folds
    Jakris calls 40
    mrvogt folds
    Waters81 checks
    *** FLOP *** [Jd Td 2c]
    Waters81 has 15 seconds left to act
    Waters81 checks
    Jakris bets 100
    Waters81 calls 100
    *** TURN *** [Jd Td 2c] [3c]
    Waters81 checks
    Jakris bets 240
    Waters81 calls 240
    *** RIVER *** [Jd Td 2c 3c] [3h]
    Waters81 checks
    Jakris checks
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Jakris shows [4s Js] two pair, Jacks and Threes
    Waters81 shows [7h Jh] two pair, Jacks and Threes
    Waters81 ties for the pot (390) with two pair, Jacks and Threes
    Jakris ties for the pot (390) with two pair, Jacks and Threes
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 780 | Rake 0
    Board: [Jd Td 2c 3c 3h]
    Seat 1: okdesign didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 2: Jakris (button) showed [4s Js] and won (390) with two pair, Jacks and Threes
    Seat 3: mrvogt (small blind) folded before the Flop
    Seat 4: Waters81 (big blind) showed [7h Jh] and won (390) with two pair, Jacks and Threes
    Seat 5: mezvinsm didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 6: driverseati didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 7: boremb didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 8: Patatoe didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 9: pockets0071 didn't bet (folded)

    Then 2 hands later...

    Full Tilt Poker Game #8458650012: The Sunday Brawl (62317891), Table 78 - 20/40 - No Limit Hold'em - 14:35:19 ET - 2008/10/12
    Seat 1: okdesign (2,825)
    Seat 2: Jakris (2,890)
    Seat 3: mrvogt (3,816)
    Seat 4: Waters81 (4,780)
    Seat 5: mezvinsm (1,504)
    Seat 6: driverseati (2,850)
    Seat 7: boremb (2,999)
    Seat 8: Patatoe (3,890)
    Seat 9: pockets0071 (2,391)
    mezvinsm posts the small blind of 20
    driverseati posts the big blind of 40
    The button is in seat #4
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Waters81 [Ac Kd]
    boremb folds
    Patatoe folds
    pockets0071 folds
    okdesign folds
    Jakris calls 40
    mrvogt folds
    Waters81 raises to 160
    mezvinsm folds
    driverseati calls 120
    Jakris calls 120
    *** FLOP *** [9h Th 5d]
    driverseati checks
    Jakris checks
    Waters81 checks
    *** TURN *** [9h Th 5d] [As]
    driverseati checks
    Jakris bets 440
    Waters81 calls 440
    driverseati calls 440
    *** RIVER *** [9h Th 5d As] [Kc]
    driverseati checks
    Jakris bets 2,290, and is all in
    Waters81 ???

    As played, do you fold here with driverseati acting behind? Do you fold thinking Jakris has you? Or do you call thinking Jakris got rivered/never had it and hope driverseati missed?
     
  2. SCTrojans SCTrojans is offline

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    Oct 12th, 2008 (10/12/2008 3:08pm) in reply to Waters

    I think I call =/ Just because we have the information that we got from the first hand. Too many AT A9 A5 combinations imo. Not too worried about driverseati, I don't think we see QJ here from him often if ever.
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  3. doubledave22 doubledave22 is offline

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    Oct 12th, 2008 (10/12/2008 3:21pm) in reply to SCTrojans

    wow this spot sucks
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  4. albari albari is offline

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    Oct 12th, 2008 (10/12/2008 3:49pm) in reply to doubledave22

    I dont think driverseat would ever flat with QJ oop against you, and I dont really see folding since this guy is obviously retarded... he could be shoving lots of hands for value, and could easily be bluffing.. id call expecitng to be ahead of jakris
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  5. PiKappRaider PiKappRaider is offline

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    Oct 12th, 2008 (10/12/2008 3:50pm) in reply to Waters

    I just snap high fived my monitor so hard it broke...
     
  6. Waters Waters is offline

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    Oct 12th, 2008 (10/12/2008 4:19pm) in reply to Waters

    Thanks for the advice. Here's what I did...

    Waters81 calls 2,290
    driverseati folds
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Jakris shows [Ts Td] three of a kind, Tens
    Waters81 mucks
    Jakris wins the pot (6,400) with three of a kind, Tens
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 6,400 | Rake 0
    Board: [9h Th 5d As Kc]
    Seat 1: okdesign didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 2: Jakris showed [Ts Td] and won (6,400) with three of a kind, Tens
    Seat 3: mrvogt didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 4: Waters81 (button) mucked [Ac Kd] - two pair, Aces and Kings
    Seat 5: mezvinsm (small blind) folded before the Flop
    Seat 6: driverseati (big blind) folded on the River
    Seat 7: boremb didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 8: Patatoe didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 9: pockets0071 didn't bet (folded)

    He got me good.
     
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  7. kxywrx kxywrx is offline

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    Oct 12th, 2008 (10/12/2008 4:27pm) in reply to Waters

    yea man, tough hand, but i think i call there too.. for the same reasons as SCT said.. i think you're def. beating him too much of the time to fold
     
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