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Intresting hand against Bodogari.

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  1. charder charder is offline

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    Mar 23rd, 2007 (3/23/2007 2:21am)

    Seat 1: BodogAri (1500 in chips)
    Seat 3: tommy29 (1520 in chips)
    Seat 4: adamb1x (1375 in chips)
    Seat 5: TLouie (1285 in chips)
    Seat 6: oldschool043 (1915 in chips)
    Seat 7: 1Handwonders (1525 in chips)
    Seat 8: Fang41 (1380 in chips)
    Fang41: posts small blind 10
    BodogAri: posts big blind 20
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to oldschool043 [Td Tc]
    tommy29: folds
    adamb1x: folds
    TLouie: raises 40 to 60
    oldschool043: calls 60
    1Handwonders: folds
    Fang41: calls 50
    BodogAri: raises 240 to 300
    TLouie: folds
    oldschool043: ......

    I was watching my friend oldshcool played, and we both no that ari, can be laggy, neways LP raiser, two cold callers, and Ari raises in the BB. Whats his range? and our shove range/call range? ill post more later....
     
  2. bulldawg10 bulldawg10 is offline

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    Mar 23rd, 2007 (3/23/2007 2:29am) in reply to charder

    ari doesn't play junk early in the tourney .... now as far as what you should do ... i dunno
  3. Admiral Admiral is offline

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    Mar 23rd, 2007 (3/23/2007 2:32am) in reply to charder

    I imagine thats a pretty easy fold. I see no reason to put that many chips in with TT
  4. Grip Grip is offline

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    Mar 23rd, 2007 (3/23/2007 2:36am) in reply to charder

    early in the tourney with the blinds so low and having position on him, it wouldn't be a bad play to smooth call and see a flop.
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  5. amak316 amak316 is offline

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    Mar 23rd, 2007 (3/23/2007 2:41am) in reply to Grip

    against ari i insta fold, ive played alot with him and i can assure you that you are behind his range.

    Ari being laggy early is a myth, however him being an owner 24/7 is not a myth
     
  6. thedylan thedylan is offline

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    Mar 23rd, 2007 (3/23/2007 2:46am) in reply to Grip

    lol grip, for 20% of your chips in the first level of a tourney, you would continue with your tens because of position?
     
  7. Ari Ari is offline

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    Mar 23rd, 2007 (3/23/2007 2:50am) in reply to charder

    like any decent player, i'd like to think i mix up my play enough, so that this spot is not an auto-anything. However, early in a sng, its more likely than not that i'll be playing tight. Against any tight range, i think 10's go into the muck.
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  8. charder charder is offline

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    Mar 23rd, 2007 (3/23/2007 2:55am) in reply to Ari

    if 10s are a fold, what do u do with AKo, and JJ?
     
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  9. BigBadDevil BigBadDevil is offline

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    Mar 23rd, 2007 (3/23/2007 2:56am) in reply to charder

    Fold.
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    Mar 23rd, 2007 (3/23/2007 2:58am) in reply to BigBadDevil

    yup
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    Mar 23rd, 2007 (3/23/2007 3:08am) in reply to charder

    its tough, its just so situational, like i said, i def don't think its auto anything
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    Mar 23rd, 2007 (3/23/2007 3:21am) in reply to thedylan

    i continue with my 10s because if i happen to flop a set and ari does end up having an overpair on me, i can double up quite nicely on him. and if i dont flop a set, or the flop comes with overs and he bets into me, i can just fold and still have 80 BB's. early on, i dont see why this would be a horrible idea
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  13. trsba trsba is offline

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    Mar 23rd, 2007 (3/23/2007 5:42am) in reply to charder

    I think the mistake came not reraising the initial raiser. Pop it to 140 that will get you the best read on the action
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    Mar 23rd, 2007 (3/23/2007 6:32am) in reply to charder

    I think Ari has KK. He could be reading weakness and raising, but based on the size of the raise, he seems to want action. Fold.

    P.S. Trs makes an excellent point. Repop him and Ari's reraise is a much easier read and you probably get a better read otherwise. Why you're mining a set with TT, I don't know.
  15. TheWatchMan TheWatchMan is offline

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    Mar 23rd, 2007 (3/23/2007 12:58pm) in reply to Stupor_Mundi

    this actually isnt even an issue. just a very easy fold unless your opponent is a proven donk.

    ari isn't.
  16. Cmoney3 Cmoney3 is offline

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    Mar 23rd, 2007 (3/23/2007 1:04pm) in reply to TheWatchMan

    all in...see where you stand
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    Mar 23rd, 2007 (3/23/2007 1:39pm) in reply to Cmoney3

    AA or KK would be my bet.
     
  18. Schlik20 Schlik20 is offline

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    Mar 23rd, 2007 (3/23/2007 1:41pm) in reply to Cmoney3

    agree... go all in and see where your at.. obv...
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    Mar 23rd, 2007 (3/23/2007 2:49pm) in reply to Schlik20

    if this is a sng, which i like to think it is? i fold here every single time unless i know 110% that my opponent is raising with junk. This is because it is not worth it to lose 20% of your stack with a hand like TT here. most of the time you are beat, AK is a possibility, but it seems QQ+ is his most likely range. if this is a sng, fold and wait for a better spot, you dont really need to play hands with marginal starting cards until the 50/100 level and on
  20. four6suited four6suited is offline

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    Mar 23rd, 2007 (3/23/2007 3:32pm) in reply to Llama88

    I FOLD CUZ I FEAR BODOGARI.
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