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Ivey takes 10 to 1 that Isildur1 will win 25k PLO Championship

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  1. ali2coolwitu ali2coolwitu is offline

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    Nov 21st, 2009 (11/21/2009 4:24pm)

    I stole this chat from somebody in the forums, but i thought it was worth discussing. What happens if Ivey gets a matchup with him? Will he lose it on purpose since he is obviously betting for isildur? Also, how much do we think the bet is for and with who? (has to be somebody big if its 10 to 1).....

    <span> Phil Ivey: i bet on u in this tournement and took 10 to 1
    Isildur1: what ? :)
    Phil Ivey: yep
    Isildur1: u beted on me ? how much ?
    Phil Ivey: a big number so play good
    Isildur1: ok, yeah i do my best
    Phil Ivey: not that big but taking 10 to 1 its pretty big
    Isildur1: yeah.. 10 times the money for me to win it ?
    Isildur1: only win counts ?
    Phil Ivey: yeah
    </span>
    <span>Isildur1: ok</span>
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    Nov 21st, 2009 (11/21/2009 4:29pm) in reply to ali2coolwitu

    Depends on the amount of money he bet on Isildur to win and what he would receive if isildur did win.

    If the amount of money he would receive for Isildur winning > what Phil would win(by a good amount) +2nd place prize money, Phil would likely lose.

    If it's not, Phil would try to win(obv less pressure since if he does lose, he still gets some sum).

    If the total's close, I'm sure he'd just go for the win.
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    Nov 21st, 2009 (11/21/2009 4:31pm) in reply to ali2coolwitu

    niiiiiiice... i hope they play each other. I wonder if the bet is for more than what the winner gets? could be interesting if they played FTW
  4. ali2coolwitu ali2coolwitu is offline

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    Nov 21st, 2009 (11/21/2009 4:36pm) in reply to harvMC10

    i am sure phil did not bet less than 50k....so hes probably looking at 500k if isildur wins.
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  5. L1verpoolFC L1verpoolFC is offline

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    Nov 21st, 2009 (11/21/2009 4:42pm) in reply to ali2coolwitu

    isildur1 is sick to be playin ivey and pa hu plo HS spread out among 6 tables
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    Nov 21st, 2009 (11/21/2009 4:47pm) in reply to ali2coolwitu

    Not only heads up

    If they are both at final table does Phil play differently when he has monetary interest in one of the players at the table? This isn't just for Phil Ivey but for all the situations where a backer and one of his players are at same table etc. Creates a shady situation that goes past just being gray

    Betting on somebody other than yourself to win in a game you are playing is not ethical and would not be acceptable in any other sport/game
  7. ali2coolwitu ali2coolwitu is offline

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    Nov 21st, 2009 (11/21/2009 4:50pm) in reply to zeppelinzoso16

    you can say the same thing about betting for another person to be world series player of the year while you are participating in the world series of poker....there are different levels of ethical dilemmas you are talking about, and its not a big ethical issue in this certain case...the guy betting against ivey obv knows this and understands it and thats why he bet.
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    Nov 21st, 2009 (11/21/2009 4:54pm) in reply to zeppelinzoso16

     
    Originally Posted by zeppelinzoso16 View Post

    Not only heads up

    If they are both at final table does Phil play differently when he has monetary interest in one of the players at the table? This isn't just for Phil Ivey but for all the situations where a backer and one of his players are at same table etc. Creates a shady situation that goes past just being gray

    Betting on somebody other than yourself to win in a game you are playing is not ethical and would not be acceptable in any other sport/game

    The final table...would be heads up... It's a heads up tournament.
  9. zeppelinzoso16 zeppelinzoso16 is offline world traveler

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    Nov 21st, 2009 (11/21/2009 4:56pm) in reply to rocksolid124

    just noticed that...
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    Nov 21st, 2009 (11/21/2009 4:57pm) in reply to zeppelinzoso16

    where is this tourny at
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    Nov 21st, 2009 (11/21/2009 4:59pm) in reply to preston 2008

    on Full Tilt
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    Nov 21st, 2009 (11/21/2009 5:01pm) in reply to L1verpoolFC

     
    Originally Posted by L1verpoolFC View Post


    isildur1 is sick to be playin ivey and pa hu plo HS spread out among 6 tables

    = isildur1 ??
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    Nov 21st, 2009 (11/21/2009 5:04pm) in reply to fcdunkin

    that looks like my ex wife before her boob job
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    Nov 21st, 2009 (11/21/2009 5:50pm) in reply to DeaconMike

    You were Married to a guy?
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    Nov 21st, 2009 (11/21/2009 5:53pm) in reply to Eggiebets

    Wow, he's sitting with almost $2m across six tables and playing the $25k HU.
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    Nov 21st, 2009 (11/21/2009 6:57pm) in reply to Frictionless

    is harrington25 dan?
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    Nov 21st, 2009 (11/21/2009 7:01pm) in reply to ali2coolwitu

    Phil could have made more than 1 bet, so he could have action on himself. And I doubt he would purposely tank, 100K means nothing to him.
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    Nov 21st, 2009 (11/21/2009 7:07pm) in reply to ali2coolwitu

    Finally started the next round!

    Isildur is playing PostFlopAction.

    Down to 8! 4 get paid...Shootout Bubble Play!
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    Nov 21st, 2009 (11/21/2009 7:42pm) in reply to Dr.GHouse

    i wish i knew who half the people were. pretty much everyone that isn't a FT pro, i dunno, except for Annette

    these guys r the real poker ballers of the world
     
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    Nov 21st, 2009 (11/21/2009 8:25pm) in reply to ali2coolwitu

    Out 6th ------- bummer Phil
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    Nov 21st, 2009 (11/21/2009 11:08pm) in reply to ali2coolwitu

    I would bet any money this was some sort of psychological ploy by Ivey. Ivey was of course playing him HU in PLO at the time along with Antonius.

    I am thinking that Ivey's plan was to get him feeling over confident and to get so cocky he would agree to these unfair matches where Isildur is playing twice the tables vs Ivey and Antonius. They prolly even goaded him into playing the PLO trny to further distract and stretch his attention him from their games.

    Ivey is a clever thinker and knows how to get an edge. Looks like it worked

    I honestly don't see Ivey making such a negative EV bet especially when he is in the trny himself ...mind games
     
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    Nov 21st, 2009 (11/21/2009 11:59pm) in reply to ali2coolwitu

    id take 10 to 1 on potripper all day to lol, phil is smart imo
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