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  1. princejammy princejammy is offline

    Baltimore, MD
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    Feb 10th, 2006 (2/10/2006 12:09pm)

    Just curious whether or not anyone would jam here postflop. Seats 3 was very loose. I thought about pushing on the draw but was worried that one of the callers of the initial bet was on the nut flush draw. I assumed I had the shortstack beat and would have gotten a call from him. Trying to improve my game in the middle portions of these sng's.

    pokerstars Game #3924034264: Tournament #19497014, Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2006/02/10 - 11:37:29 (ET)

    Table '19497014 1' Seat #8 is the button

    Seat 1: princejammy (1905 in chips)

    Seat 2: snowdrop9 (1765 in chips)

    Seat 3: dalemarsland (1040 in chips)

    Seat 4: gibrok73 (1475 in chips)

    Seat 5: Athan25 (2825 in chips)

    Seat 8: dutch99 (1890 in chips)

    Seat 9: aardvark73 (2600 in chips)

    aardvark73: posts small blind 25

    princejammy: posts big blind 50

    *** HOLE CARDS ***

    Dealt to princejammy [Ks Ts]

    snowdrop9: folds

    dalemarsland: raises 100 to 150

    gibrok73: folds

    Athan25: calls 150

    dutch99: calls 150

    aardvark73: calls 125

    princejammy: calls 100

    *** FLOP *** [Th Js 8s]

    aardvark73: checks

    princejammy: checks

    dalemarsland: bets 450

    Athan25: calls 450

    dutch99: folds

    aardvark73: calls 450

    princejammy: folds

    *** TURN *** [Th Js 8s] [7d]

    aardvark73: checks

    dalemarsland: bets 440 and is all-in

    Athan25: calls 440

    aardvark73: raises 440 to 880

    Athan25: calls 440

    *** RIVER *** [Th Js 8s 7d] [Tc]

    aardvark73: bets 750

    Athan25: folds

    *** SHOW DOWN ***

    aardvark73: shows [As 9c] (a straight, Seven to Jack)

    aardvark73 collected 880 from side pot

    dalemarsland: shows [Kd 9d] (a straight, Seven to Jack)

    aardvark73 collected 1710 from main pot

    dalemarsland collected 1710 from main pot

    *** SUMMARY ***

    Total pot 4300 Main pot 3420. Side pot 880. | Rake 0

    Board [Th Js 8s 7d Tc]

    Seat 1: princejammy (big blind) folded on the Flop

    Seat 2: snowdrop9 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

    Seat 3: dalemarsland showed [Kd 9d] and won (1710) with a straight, Seven to Jack

    Seat 4: gibrok73 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

    Seat 5: Athan25 folded on the River

    Seat 8: dutch99 (button) folded on the Flop

    Seat 9: aardvark73 (small blind) showed [As 9c] and won (2590) with a straight, Seven to Jack
  2. Winstroltabs Winstroltabs is offline

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    Feb 10th, 2006 (2/10/2006 1:31pm) in reply to princejammy

    I would not have pushed if I checked and the short stack lead out with 450 and the bigger stacked called as well. The short stacked had enough of his stack invested at that point that he was not going to fold, and the way the big stack played the hand he most likely would have not folded either. I would have put the big stack on atleast a jack. I would have maybe lead out of the flop with a pot sized bet and probably would have lost alot of chips if the short stacked pushed because then I would have called. If they both just flat called the flop which is an aweful play(espeically for the short stack) I would have checked the turn and got off the hand with the str8 on the board because clearly one if not both of them as it turns out was chasing the str8. The only play that would have maybe worked would have been to bet out on the flop and get them to both fold the str8 draw. But based on the information you had on the players and the way they played the hand I think you played it correctly. The big stacked played the hand terrible. I would have either folded to the short stack bet or pushed all-in to keep you off a flush draw or a weak jack. The pot was big enough that it was either a fold or a push for the big stack on the flop. Also rasing in second position first in short stacked with k9 is a very bad move IMO. Hoefully you came back and caught both of those players later on in the tourney.
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