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Jeez man am I jus spewing here or what??? $25 cake final table 2k guarenteed

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  1. mrdollarbill mrdollarbill is offline

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    May 10th, 2012 (5/10/2012 1:55am)

    Ive been on a pretty shitty run lately and I'm wonderin am I playing bad being results oriented or what..
    looks like I have roughly 18 bb's should I be flatting here instead of jamming I dnt want to be results oriented I generally would flat with 10-JJ 25bb's or higher in this spot is my line of thinking right or am I jus spewing it out? kinkywizard vp:14 pr:2 81 hands havent played much with him tajesh21 vp:20 pr:9 368 hands any thoughts would be appreciated...

    Hand#2957A8D930000031 - $2,000 Guaranteed T11065648 -- TICKETCASH -- $25 + $2.5 -- 10 Max -- Table 13 -- 120/600/1200 NL Hold'em -- 2012/05/09 - 19:20:54
    Dealer: Seat 8
    Seat 1: Azeban (11,700 in chips)
    Seat 2: kinkywizard (40,426 in chips)
    Seat 3: UncleGringo (69,462 in chips)
    Seat 4: tajesh21 (48,297 in chips)
    Seat 5: UcantSeeMeho (22,188 in chips)
    Seat 6: Rafactba (59,655 in chips)
    Seat 7: On_TilT_ (7,448 in chips)
    Seat 8: gr81der (10,372 in chips)
    Seat 9: AceSSJ (54,452 in chips)
    Azeban: posts ante of 120
    kinkywizard: posts ante of 120
    UncleGringo: posts ante of 120
    tajesh21: posts ante of 120
    UcantSeeMeho: posts ante of 120
    Rafactba: posts ante of 120
    On_TilT_: posts ante of 120
    gr81der: posts ante of 120
    AceSSJ: posts ante of 120
    AceSSJ: posts small blind 600
    Azeban: posts big blind 1,200
    Dealt to UcantSeeMeho [Td,Ts]
    kinkywizard chats: if raf isnt in there ur insta calling right tilt
    kinkywizard: folds
    UncleGringo: raises to 3,000
    tajesh21: calls 3,000
    Si Pit (obs) chats: hey on Tilt what site are you on Cake or Intertops
    On_TilT_ chats: not instant calling...instant raiseing
    On_TilT_ chats: cake
    On_TilT_ chats: you?
    UcantSeeMeho: is all in 22,068
    Rafactba: folds
    On_TilT_: folds
    gr81der: folds
    AceSSJ: folds
    Azeban: folds
    UncleGringo: is all in 66,342
    tajesh21: is all in 45,177
    UncleGringo: returns uncalled bet 21,165
    UncleGringo: shows [Kh Kc]
    tajesh21: shows [Ac As]
    UcantSeeMeho: shows [Td Ts]
    *** FLOP *** [5h,Ks,6s]
    AceSSJ chats: wow
    On_TilT_ chats: just text me si pit
    *** TURN *** [3s]
    *** RIVER *** [Jd]
    ***SHOW DOWN***
    UncleGringo wins 52,218 with Three of a Kind Kings
    ***SHOW DOWN***
    UncleGringo wins 69,084 with Three of a Kind Kings
    tajesh21 chats: terrible
    UcantSeeMeho finished 9 out of 81 players.
     
  2. boneralert boneralert is offline

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    May 10th, 2012 (5/10/2012 2:07am) in reply to mrdollarbill

    Jamming for sure. Youll just run into way too many AK/AQ and 77-99 hands plus sometimes youll take town that huge pot without any showdown. Unless you have some kind of read on a player like tajesh that would indicate he is flatting aces and very little else here, Id just jam.
     
  3. mjr344 mjr344 is offline Scammer

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    May 10th, 2012 (5/10/2012 2:11am) in reply to boneralert

    You could easily flat in that situation... but judging by the previous play (I got 11th in the tourney - JaysonWerth) I would say jam/fold is your only move. Just ran into monsters, sorry bud.
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    May 10th, 2012 (5/10/2012 4:14pm) in reply to mjr344

     
    Originally Posted by mjr344 View Post

    You could easily flat in that situation... but judging by the previous play (I got 11th in the tourney - JaysonWerth) I would say jam/fold is your only move. Just ran into monsters, sorry bud.

    didn't you mean jam, fold, then burst like a jet through the roof of your house and over the mountains?

    you played it right OP, just ul.
  5. Staniz Staniz is offline

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    May 10th, 2012 (5/10/2012 7:34pm) in reply to EyeKnows

    depends if youre willing to flip or not. the pot is about 31k after your shove, 19k to call for a 31k pot is a tempting price. so if you have no read on the other players raising trash, you can expect to be called for sure. so its just a question of if you wanna gamble with TT or wait for another spot with more fold equity. i would never flat here against 2 players with your stacksize.
     
  6. double_kyan double_kyan is offline

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    May 10th, 2012 (5/10/2012 9:57pm) in reply to Staniz

     
    Originally Posted by Staniz View Post

    depends if youre willing to flip or not. the pot is about 31k after your shove, 19k to call for a 31k pot is a tempting price. so if you have no read on the other players raising trash, you can expect to be called for sure. so its just a question of if you wanna gamble with TT or wait for another spot with more fold equity. i would never flat here against 2 players with your stacksize.


    u def have to wonder what utg+1 is raising and wht is utg+ 2 is flatting here in this spot of the tourney. i actually fold this ,timing tells on b oth of them would help ,hopefully ur not on a bunch of tables,adn u have player knowledge as well

    i dont think its worth the shove over the flatting either ,if i was forced to play it,i'd play the board than shove this situation ,shoving here seems suicidal its bubble action for the ft and these dudes arent gnna fk around right here in EP ,3k bets and calls from EP is suspicious,plus the hud numbers dont make me want to jam tt any quicker as well, i fold here and look for smthn else

    read it wrong this is the ft lol ok well it does change the aggression factor among players i thought it was the bubble,i still dont like the two stacks in EP firing away and i thnk a fold is fine right here,many of times ive jammed this hand, but i have been surviving with some good lay downs of l8 from really thinking about wht they should have in these spots vs. my fold equity
    Edited By: double_kyan May 10th, 2012 at 10:08 PM
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  7. mrdollarbill mrdollarbill is offline

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    May 10th, 2012 (5/10/2012 11:01pm) in reply to double_kyan

     
    Originally Posted by double_kyan View Post

    u def have to wonder what utg+1 is raising and wht is utg+ 2 is flatting here in this spot of the tourney. i actually fold this ,timing tells on b oth of them would help ,hopefully ur not on a bunch of tables,adn u have player knowledge as well

    i dont think its worth the shove over the flatting either ,if i was forced to play it,i'd play the board than shove this situation ,shoving here seems suicidal its bubble action for the ft and these dudes arent gnna fk around right here in EP ,3k bets and calls from EP is suspicious,plus the hud numbers dont make me want to jam tt any quicker as well, i fold here and look for smthn else

    read it wrong this is the ft lol ok well it does change the aggression factor among players i thought it was the bubble,i still dont like the two stacks in EP firing away and i thnk a fold is fine right here,many of times ive jammed this hand, but i have been surviving with some good lay downs of l8 from really thinking about wht they should have in these spots vs. my fold equity

    I was playing alot of tables at the time of this its a pretty sick fold with 1010 with 18bigs i think its a shove or fold spot either way u could get in some gross spots flatting I think, what do u do with JJ here? 1010+ak I figure would be my range with 18 bigs in this spot If I have no read on the players upfront being tricky or anything like that..
     
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    May 11th, 2012 (5/11/2012 12:27am) in reply to mrdollarbill

    im not using HUD so I dont get to see that 1st guy has a 2% pfr ,thats the difference with all of it, DING DING DING, guess i better get HUD again
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    May 11th, 2012 (5/11/2012 2:49am) in reply to double_kyan

    They would need to be a bit loose & spewy to get me to push. It's pretty borderline with ur stack, 8,800 in the pot, & ur hand. The early raiser is going to call you with AK, maybe AQs, and overpairs, and will fold out smaller pairs most likely. A flat from utg+2 is interesting. It is either a small pair or a huge hand looking to induce/trap. I've been running that play more and it usually works very well. If a raise from utg+1 doesn't send off some alarms a flat from utg+2 def should. I'd flat.
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