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  1. pupkevicius pupkevicius is offline

    Dartford
    United Kingdom

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    Nov 27th, 2011 (11/27/2011 8:46pm)

    what can i do differently here?

    I think flatting here pre and playing carefully is much better than what i did

    pokerstars Game #71237013797: Tournament #472452228, $15.00+$1.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level V (40/80) - 2011/11/27 15:40:43 ET
    Table '472452228 49' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: Takejoto (4280 in chips)
    Seat 2: Phlexl (3653 in chips)
    Seat 3: pupkevicius1 (3610 in chips)
    Seat 4: pipemaster55 (6279 in chips)
    Seat 5: surrrikata (3572 in chips)
    Seat 6: FreakYouOut (4084 in chips)
    Phlexl: posts small blind 40
    pupkevicius1: posts big blind 80
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to pupkevicius1 [Jh Jd]
    pipemaster55: folds
    surrrikata: folds
    FreakYouOut: raises 120 to 200
    Takejoto: folds
    Phlexl: calls 160
    pupkevicius1: raises 440 to 640
    FreakYouOut: raises 3444 to 4084 and is all-in
    Phlexl: folds
    pupkevicius1: calls 2970 and is all-in
    Uncalled bet (474) returned to FreakYouOut
    *** FLOP *** [Ad 9c 6h]
    *** TURN *** [Ad 9c 6h] [5h]
    *** RIVER *** [Ad 9c 6h 5h] [Jc]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    pupkevicius1: shows [Jh Jd] (three of a kind, Jacks)
    FreakYouOut: shows [Qc Qd] (a pair of Queens)
    pupkevicius1 collected 7420 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 7420 | Rake 0
    Board [Ad 9c 6h 5h Jc]
    Seat 1: Takejoto (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: Phlexl (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 3: pupkevicius1 (big blind) showed [Jh Jd] and won (7420) with three of a kind, Jacks
    Seat 4: pipemaster55 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: surrrikata folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: FreakYouOut showed [Qc Qd] and lost with a pair of Queens
  2. Tourney Tourney is offline

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    Nov 27th, 2011 (11/27/2011 9:22pm) in reply to pupkevicius

     
    Originally Posted by pupkevicius View Post

    what can i do differently here?


    Nothing imo. With the possible exceptions being either, he is EXTREMELY tight, or is extremely predictable post flop. (won't represent a Q, K or A when it comes if he just has trash). I'll assume you have no reads though since none were mentioned, in that case I believe you made the right play and its not very close in my mind.
  3. chardrian chardrian is offline

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    Nov 27th, 2011 (11/27/2011 9:29pm) in reply to Tourney

    Start by not posting your entire hand and give us as much information as you can.

    When you do post your hand, delete the results as they tend to make people give you biased answers. So make your post look like this.

    pokerstars Game #71237013797: Tournament #472452228, $15.00+$1.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level V (40/80) - 2011/11/27 15:40:43 ET
    Table '472452228 49' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: Takejoto (4280 in chips)
    Seat 2: Phlexl (3653 in chips)
    Seat 3: pupkevicius1 (3610 in chips)
    Seat 4: pipemaster55 (6279 in chips)
    Seat 5: surrrikata (3572 in chips)
    Seat 6: FreakYouOut (4084 in chips)
    Phlexl: posts small blind 40
    pupkevicius1: posts big blind 80
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to pupkevicius1 [Jh Jd]
    pipemaster55: folds
    surrrikata: folds
    FreakYouOut: raises 120 to 200
    Takejoto: folds
    Phlexl: calls 160
    pupkevicius1: raises 440 to 640
    FreakYouOut: raises 3444 to 4084 and is all-in
    Phlexl: folds
    pupkevicius1:??

    As far as the actual hand, it really wasn't that bad. You could make an argument for flatting pre since you have 45 BBs and there are no antes, but you are playing 6 max and the raise is coming from a likely steal position from the HJ and the SB called and you don't really want to play JJ 3-ways so your 3-bet was definitely defensible. Once you got 4-bet shoved on it is hard to fold JJ getting 3:2.

    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 43.229% 41.86% 01.37% 176310408 5780460.00 { JJ }
    Hand 1: 56.771% 55.40% 01.37% 233355456 5780460.00 { TT+, AKs, AKo }
      

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  4. pupkevicius pupkevicius is offline

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    Nov 28th, 2011 (11/28/2011 1:55am) in reply to chardrian

    Thanks for the tip with regards to the format in which I post my hands

    Char my problem here is that when I raise only jj+ and ak is shoving me here ( no reads on player)

    I think when he flats i have his range crushed but he didnt do that,

    In general I have started to notice many spot in poker (this is one of them) where when you raise pre you only get action when you are beat and fold out worse hands, this is why I dont 3bet jj and aq much and rather flat unless I have reads or stack dynamics indicate i should do so otherwise
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  5. gosoxxx gosoxxx is offline

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    Nov 28th, 2011 (11/28/2011 2:08am) in reply to pupkevicius

    I prob flat here vs avg players, but versus players that tend to spew, Ill def 3 bet induce etc. If u think opponent is unlikely to 4 bet u light always flat here. If u have like 35bbs or less, its a easy 3 bet. If u flat pre and that flop comes out ill prob float flop and see what he does on turn and re-evaluate and chk back if he doesn't c bet
  6. chardrian chardrian is offline

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    Nov 28th, 2011 (11/28/2011 2:39am) in reply to gosoxxx

    yeah, a flat is fine for the reasons you gave.

    I was just trying to point out that this is definitely not a horribad play considering it is 6 max.
      
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