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View Poll Results: WWYD here: Fold, Flat, Jam

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  • Fold

    3
    10.71%

  • Flat

    1
    3.57%

  • Jam

    24
    85.71%

JJ deep in MET ( Micro )

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  1. bk3686 bk3686 is offline

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    Mar 1st, 2011 (3/1/2011 11:47pm)

    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to bk3686 [Jh Jd]
    Ilring raises to 12,000
    rasti4 folds
    cooper345 folds
    verydonk folds
    Placebo9 folds
    kenny1312 folds
    bk3686 calls 9,000
    LikeToBluffYou has 15 seconds left to act
    LikeToBluffYou raises to 48,000
    Ilring has 15 seconds left to act
    Ilring folds

    BB+1 uses the min utg every other orbit. BB has been a little tight, but just lost a decent pot. Do you fold or is it a standard squeeze and you jam?
  2. razorpoker2002 razorpoker2002 is offline

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    Mar 1st, 2011 (3/1/2011 11:54pm) in reply to bk3686

    need more info stack sizes ect
     
  3. bk3686 bk3686 is offline

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    Mar 1st, 2011 (3/1/2011 11:55pm) in reply to razorpoker2002

     
    Originally Posted by razorpoker2002 View Post

    need more info stack sizes ect

    Sry, didn't copy enough. Here it is....

    Full Tilt Poker Game #28646288135: $4,000 Guarantee (222499122), Table 80 - 3000/6000 Ante 750 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:41:28 ET - 2011/03/01
    Seat 1: LikeToBluffYou (129,546)
    Seat 2: Ilring (140,041)
    Seat 3: rasti4 (42,452)
    Seat 4: cooper345 (184,353)
    Seat 6: verydonk (250,051)
    Seat 7: Placebo9 (122,726)
    Seat 8: kenny1312 (185,698)
    Seat 9: bk3686 (181,250)
    LikeToBluffYou antes 750
    Ilring antes 750
    rasti4 antes 750
    cooper345 antes 750
    verydonk antes 750
    Placebo9 antes 750
    kenny1312 antes 750
    bk3686 antes 750
    bk3686 posts the small blind of 3,000
    LikeToBluffYou posts the big blind of 6,000
    The button is in seat #8
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to bk3686 [Jh Jd]
    Ilring raises to 12,000
    rasti4 folds
    cooper345 folds
    verydonk folds
    Placebo9 folds
    kenny1312 folds
    bk3686 calls 9,000
    LikeToBluffYou has 15 seconds left to act
    LikeToBluffYou raises to 48,000
    Ilring has 15 seconds left to act
    Ilring folds
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  4. bonflizubi bonflizubi is offline

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    Mar 1st, 2011 (3/1/2011 11:59pm) in reply to bk3686

    repost that with the stacks and blinds (ie whole HH just without results). We need to know that info before we know anything else. Effective stacks are the most important thing in reading a HH.

    ok yo ubeat me to it with stacks. I think you jam here. you flatted and got what you wanted. If you lose you arent out, and i figure you are most likely flipping him here but I like the spot.
     
  5. winkie23 winkie23 is offline

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    Mar 2nd, 2011 (3/2/2011 12:04am) in reply to bonflizubi

    30 blinds and the fourth best starting hand = all in for me. Likely a flip but I will take it to have a shot at the win.
  6. bk3686 bk3686 is offline

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    Mar 2nd, 2011 (3/2/2011 12:10am) in reply to winkie23

    In response to MMM's thread. I think this is a good discussion on a HH for any tier of buy in.

    Possibly get a poll for:

    A: Fold
    B: Jam

    After a page of responses if no poll is created, I'll post HHs and thought process.

    Feel free to critique.
    Edited By: bk3686 Mar 2nd, 2011 at 12:11 AM
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  7. lookin for work lookin for work is offline

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    Mar 2nd, 2011 (3/2/2011 1:26am) in reply to bk3686

    Yea, I think flatting is the worst move you can make here. I would Jam.
  8. bonflizubi bonflizubi is offline

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    Mar 3rd, 2011 (3/3/2011 12:11am) in reply to lookin for work

    OP- what was your thought process ?
     
  9. fly44 fly44 is offline

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    Mar 3rd, 2011 (3/3/2011 1:10am) in reply to bonflizubi

    Jam the first time.
    521 1
  10. bk3686 bk3686 is offline

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    Mar 3rd, 2011 (3/3/2011 1:33am) in reply to fly44

    I jammed here and ran into AA. The board made a straight and we chopped.

    I smoothed pre to keep pot small and to play post flop. I didn't feel the need to commit myself pre with JJ against them.
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  11. Passiveplay Passiveplay is offline

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    Mar 3rd, 2011 (3/3/2011 1:43am) in reply to bk3686

     
    Originally Posted by bk3686 View Post

    I smoothed pre to keep pot small and to play post flop. I didn't feel the need to commit myself pre with JJ against them.

    With your stack size you can't smooth pre. I assume by flatting pre you are planning on giving up on some flops which is bad. You don't want to put that much of your stack unless you are willing to go all the way.
     
  12. maroon21 maroon21 is offline

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    Mar 3rd, 2011 (3/3/2011 1:51am) in reply to bk3686

     
    Originally Posted by bk3686 View Post

    I jammed here and ran into AA. The board made a straight and we chopped.

    I smoothed pre to keep pot small and to play post flop. I didn't feel the need to commit myself pre with JJ against them.


    I'm confused... How do you jam and smooth?
  13. bonflizubi bonflizubi is offline

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    Mar 3rd, 2011 (3/3/2011 2:00am) in reply to maroon21

     
    Originally Posted by maroon21 View Post

    I'm confused... How do you jam and smooth?


    he smoothed with the intention of keeping it small. then based on teh action he realized he had to jam
     
  14. maroon21 maroon21 is offline

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    Mar 3rd, 2011 (3/3/2011 2:06am) in reply to bonflizubi

     
    Originally Posted by bonflizubi View Post

    he smoothed with the intention of keeping it small. then based on teh action he realized he had to jam


    Okay Okay, was wondering if that's what he meant, just confusing the way he presented it. Reverse the sentences ftw. lol
  15. PoopinOnDonks PoopinOnDonks is offline

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    Mar 3rd, 2011 (3/3/2011 2:09am) in reply to maroon21

    flatting here with JJ is super bad given his stack size.

    when he 3bets that amount given his initial stack, screams a monster and AK at the very VERY worst, so fold.
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