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JJ MTT becoming short stacked mid po. after tight raiser

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  1. rambodave rambodave is offline

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    Sep 6th, 2007 (9/6/2007 3:07pm)

    Sorry, the HH for this was deleted so I'll just have to explain. Middle of tourney in mid po. I have JJ. Blinds are 100-200. I have 2900 chips. Tightest player (2600 chips to start with) at table raises to 700 in 2nd po. My history of him is he raises small, 2.5x or so with monster pairs. So I put him on unpaired hand AK or lower, maybe 1010 or less. He is capable of folding to tough decisions. I also have a tight image. I reraise allin. He calls. No problem if he has monster...............he turns over AQ! What? I was just blown away. I did not think he would call with AQ. How should I have played this? What could I have done better? Tourney scenario, I figured he would fold that and still be left with 9 bb, shortstack but alive.
  2. j_farah j_farah is offline

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    Sep 6th, 2007 (9/6/2007 5:30pm) in reply to rambodave

    You put him on a lower pair or two overs and you were right. That doesn't mean he's going to fold if you push, and you shouldn't want him to. If your read is acurate, JJ is ahead of his range and you're probably not going to get a better hand soon, so I say push.
  3. catcason catcason is offline

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    Sep 6th, 2007 (9/6/2007 5:48pm) in reply to rambodave

    You were right his larger than normal raise indicated a certain amount of weekness, because it looks like he doesn't want to get called. I think were you went wrong, was getting into with this guy with pockets JJ's. Yes he could fold to all-in as a response to your strentgth. But you put yourself in a race situation with JJ mid way through the tourament. Any hand in the range you thought he might have would put you in a race with him. You could have picked up 700 chips by playing a pot. Not by shoving over the top of him.
  4. sotti sotti is offline

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    Sep 6th, 2007 (9/6/2007 7:26pm) in reply to rambodave

    AQ has to call 1900 chips into a 3600 chip pot.

    Pot odds 1.89:1 meaning he needs to win just 34% of the time to be right.

    If he ranges you as tight as TT,JJ,KK,AK he's exactly 34% to win, if he believes you make this play with any wider range of hands he's got even better odds to call.

    Personally when I've got 13 BB and AQ, I just jam the god damn pot because I know I'm going to be getting odds to call a push on me so why do it.

    If this guy pushes on you and you sitting there with JJ, it's easier to throw away JJ when you've got no money in the pot than it is to throw away AQ when you've got >25% + the blinds to sweeten your odds.
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