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I've been playing poker for some time now, and love doing this and not thinking about getting a job ever in my life. I've gotten over the fact that I must not bother over what the society might think because of the "gambling" tag attached with this and I must do what I love to. Infact, I'm extremely unsocial and lazy too and this is also a good escape from people coupled with the advantage of earning money without doing a job.
Edited By: fizzypants Feb 21st, 2011 at 05:04 AM
However, of late, I'm getting thoughts like, when I become 60 some day and look back at my life, do I want to see that all I did with my life was play poker and made a lot of $$$? Could I have had a career and a big position in an esteemed company? And most importantly, will there be a day when I get tired of poker after the youth stage passes and then it would be extremely difficult for me to find a job if I was like 30 (8-10 years down the line) and had a blank resume?
But I also know, if I do a job right now, I won't get enough time for my poker and be able to make this much money like I have been doing..So it seems like basically I have to decide between the two...I'm extremely confused and don't know which path to choose, because this decision is going to impact the rest of my life...I'm old enough now and I must take a decision now.
All advice from you guys, I will highly appreciate. Thanks in advance! -
Always have something to fall back on. You could be the BEST player in the world...and not have poker work out. Maybe keep your options open of a career you could be passionate about. IE if you're into music, becoming a music teacher ect. Most importantly though always do something you enjoy. If you love just playing poker now, live in the moment and keep it up, just always have a finacial back up plan. For the most part if your living a life you really enjoy and doing what you love, how could you look in 60 years and regret it? no regrets broooooooooooo. gl.
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Job and poker seems like the best option IMO. Very few make life changing money w/o donating a lot of it back. All I do is supplement my income with it and I couldn't be happier.
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didnt read. job 100%
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do what suits you, be realistic. if youve banked playing poker and have enough $$$ saved up then do it. shit goes bad starting throwing your resume out or something. i dunno. take the leap. dont be scared.
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the thing about a "job" is if you dont like it youll end up hateing it..so then you have to ask yourself what can you do that you wont hate
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def have a plan B, your young and the bills will not be what they are when your 30, (assuming you plan to own a home and have a family)
Nothing wrong with making money at poker, but as they say,"always leave yourself outs" -
I went through the same thought process a few years back. If you truly love poker and you think you can make it, go for it. There are pros and cons to both sides but you have to do what you love.
I was playing about 25-30 hours a week while working and was getting burned out after about 6 months. That's when I knew my heart wasn't in it.
Pros:
- Make your own hours
- Work from home
- Work only as much as you need to
- Chance to make a boatload of money quickly
- It's fun
Cons:
- No guaranteed paycheck
- "Burnout" quite common
- No guaranteed raise and/or track for success (unless you are staked/backed and the person will invest more in you)
- Pay your own healthcare, taxes, retirement etc. which is not guaranteed
- Not fun when you get coolered 50 times in a row
I'm sure that list goes on and on but these were the main factors I took into consideration when I decided to go the "job" route. Another good question to ask yourself is: "Do I still see myself having my heart in it next year? 5 years? 10 years? 20 years? Life?"
If the answer is yes, go for it. If you have any doubts, talk to those that have been doing it for a while. -
I'm pushin 30 and poker has been my main source of income since I graduated college 4 yrs ago. If I had it to do all over again I would have started a career right out of college and play poker only on the like Saturdays and Sundays. By now I could have put a shitload of money away, invested, had a nice down payment for a bigger house (wife wants a 3rd kid soon). Instead I had to use my poker winnings to pay the everyday expenses that life brings. Get started in a career and give yourself some stability and security, then use poker as a way to live better than your coworkers imo.
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I hated my job and wasn't a happy person working for other people and not making much money. 6 months ago I quit my job to play poker full time. I take orders from nobody, I set my own hours, I take days off whenever I want WHEREVER I want and have made way more money than I would have had I kept my job.
It doesn't always work out like this for most people (in fact it usually doesn't work out at all) but I absolutely love it and wouldn't have it any other way. In fact I wish I had quit my job earlier. -
Most people dont consider that you will be completely lacking job experience on your resume if you play poker for 3-4 years and decide its not worthwhile. I play poker full time, and looking back, it was probably the worst decision I ever made. When I think about all the times I would run rediculously good when I was low on money, I realize how good I actually run. Everyone wont run good and all the people who think poker is a better option than any other job dont take a lot of stuff into account. If you actually have to ask whether or not its a good option to play poker full time and its not a snap decision, the answer is almost certainly get a job.
Edited By: Scarypooper Nov 16th, 2010 at 04:46 AM -
Great post... i dont play cards to much but i know so many kids my age dropping out of college and not even going to college right out of high school seeing people play cards online and wsop on tv thinking they can make a BOAT load of money very quicky and easy and it isnt that easy. i would much rather have a 9 to 5 job pay me 50k a year then play online cards full time and make 75k a year. the grind and life style is grueling and your not guranteed that money and the down swings and variance is KILLER. lots of the kids i know regret doing it and pretty much have fawked there lives up to the max and wont ever ammount to anything they say. REAL JOB FTW Anyday of the week..
Originally Posted by Scarypooper
Most people dont consider that you will be completely lacking job experience on your resume if you play poker for 3-4 years and decide its not worthwhile. I play poker full time, and looking back, it was probably the worst decision I ever made. When I think about all the times I would run rediculously good when I was low on money, I realize how good I actually run. Everyone wont run good and all the people who think poker is a better option than any other job dont take a lot of stuff into account. If you actually have to ask whether or not its a good option to play poker full time and its not a snap decision, the answer is almost certainly get a job.
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Job is the absolute worst of every option for income but everyone seems sold on it still lol.
Do what you enjoy. if it's not cards, own whatever you do after that. -
makin 50-70k a year when you are 20 and waking up at 3 pm is cool. making 50-70k when you are 30 and waking up at 3 pm is not cool. All your friends will have real lives by then.
everyone needs some sort of discipline and structure in their life. poker instills none of that.
Now if you were making 2-300k a year than thats diff. save up the money and invest wisely and start your own business. -
enjoy being a slave lol. I'll take 50-70k @ 3pm
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Theres been some cracking threads in the recent times on this subject, full of insights by plenty of the most successful players on here.
Unfortunately you are forced to make the most important decisions in your life when in your in your early 20s.
As you get older you realise you really didnt know fuck all about real life.
Thats not to get at you young guys, thats just the way it is, and always will be. -
Shipthisplz kinda beat me to it, but allow me to explain what lead me to lead this life at this moment and bring some light to why i forgo rational thinking to a point and persue the game i love for a set period of time... (I have a period set out to see what if any route i will decide to take with poker... poker alone, poker and part time job, limited poker and real job, real job and poker as a hobby)
When I left high school for college, I left only knowing what society drilled into me. That high SAT scores and being near the top of the class meant a near obligation to go to college, get a job that pays great (which is miles away from a 'great job' philisophically) etc.
There is nothing wrong with doing that if you're happy doing it, and thoroughly enjoy what you're doing, but if you're not - regardless of whether it's school, poker, job or anything else - that's where things go bad. I found myself lost and depressed simply because I wasn't doing anything that brought me joy, and what really sealed the deal for me was this...
I've now lost two friends I literally grew up with, spent time with at hockey tournaments, in locker rooms, played hockey with since childhood, before their 21st birthday. I hope that the majority of you have never, and will never, experience this, but to spell it out, sitting through the wake and funeral of someone you love is one of the hardest things you will ever go through. Sitting through the wake and funeral of someone that close to you knowing they never got to legally drink in the United States is not only equally devastating, but also a lot more eye-opening.
There's a lot to be said about setting yourself up to succeed, and I don't deny that many of the rationally thought out comments ITT are true for most people, if not all in some form or another. For me personally I know with my prior record academically I can pick right up after this summer and plan to if school doesn't work out in a massive way that makes me continue to put off school, so I guess in a way I do agree with the 'Plan B' argument to a point. But honestly, as cliche as it sounds when everything's ok in your personal life, this life is wayyyyy too fucking precious to waste even a second of it without having a god damn blast. Hope this helps someone find direction, RIP Blez + J-Rent.
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20 Things to consider before you go pro
20 Things to Consider before you turn pro, part two
Pay close attention to #4, #8, #9, #12, #13, #14, #20 and you'll see why I'm saying this:
The most important thing you'll get from this is that making similar money in a 9-to-5 job is going to be better than making the same money playing poker. Playing poker for a living has a lot of extra costs associated with it that you might not normally think about. If you can make 1.5x as much money playing poker as you can in your 9-to-5, then you'll have a similar standard of living.
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Excellent points Jennifer. My biggest concern for many of the younger players who are 100% devoted to poker from an early age is all of the life experiences that they will miss out on. Many of us have build our strongest friendships with people that we met in college/university or through the workplace. In fact, many of us have probably met our spouses through these avenues. The isolation of playing on-line could resonate throughout these players lives. All the money in the world can not buy back these lost experiences.
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Excellent post.
Originally Posted by realsharp
Excellent points Jennifer. My biggest concern for many of the younger players who are 100% devoted to poker from an early age is all of the life experiences that they will miss out on. Many of us have build our strongest friendships with people that we met in college/university or through the workplace. In fact, many of us have probably met our spouses through these avenues. The isolation of playing on-line could resonate throughout these players lives. All the money in the world can not buy back these lost experiences.
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thanks everyone for the wonderful wonderful responses...greatly appreciated and excellently insightful...i get a hint at whats the best way to go...
special thanks to jennifear for the awesome link...thanks jen
you're sooo right! thanksOriginally Posted by realsharp
Excellent points Jennifer. My biggest concern for many of the younger players who are 100% devoted to poker from an early age is all of the life experiences that they will miss out on. Many of us have build our strongest friendships with people that we met in college/university or through the workplace. In fact, many of us have probably met our spouses through these avenues. The isolation of playing on-line could resonate throughout these players lives. All the money in the world can not buy back these lost experiences.
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Yea. Nothing wrong with working a 9-5 and playing on the side for extra cash.
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^^this all the way, the best feeling the world is when you're playing poker and you dont give a rats ass about how much $$ you need to make to be profitable for the week/month/yr etcc...... having a job and playing poker as a hobby enables me to fully enjoy the game without the 'grinding it out to pay rent...' feel
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Appreciate the responses. More welcome :-)
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