ok most ppl know taht, this thread isnt really about that

http://pokerforums.fulltiltpoker.com...amp;highlight=

but i sepcifically remember clonie gowen playing in a live event and also in the Sunday major on ftp simultaneously

seems to me like a double std is being applied

shouldnt clonie be also fired, as this is her 2nd strike, first being that she blatantly copied jsups article and passed it along as her own

seems to me like if clonie was playing live, it would be hard to believe that she was actually the "pro" behind her computer playing the sunday major simultaneously

so, my question is, if johnathan little was fired from ftp, shouldnt clonie gowen be fired for the same exact thing?

also, please leave out the fact that clonie is horrible at poker in this arguement, as that has nothing to do with it.

I think you just did FTP a favor.

as in life, it's all about who you know or who you blow... Clonie won't get in trouble...

Kajun $endz

Did clonie rape them in the ass with crushing the games 24/7 taking advantage of there deal if you play in the mojor one thing but 3k or how many sit and gos is completely diffrent.

<span> When a player on Full Tilt Poker plays against and chats with a red pro on the site, it is imperative that they be able to trust that it is really the advertised pro playing the account. Given that Mr. Little violated that trust, we have decided to sever his ties to the site, and close his account.

cross posted form the link i provided....

their reasoning is that they cant trust that it was j little playing, nothing about raping them for rakeback, so based on that reason, shouldnt clownie be fired bc we in fact KNOW that it wasnt her on her account that day

ftp doug response?
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she should be fired for plagiarism long before this, what kind of message does that send about FTP?

Completely agree Cmoney...She just because she is nice to look at(compared to the average girl playing poker obv.) doesn't mean she shouldn't be canned just like Jlittle. Double Standard? Rules are clearly stated...she broke them now punish her.

Clonie owns part of Full Tilt, do the math you idiot

Jpitt thanks for pointing out the obvious. please post more imo..

Fire them all ftp...

Its not his success its the fact he blatantly took advantage of his deal and completely cheated the site out of money by having constant sit and gos running at all hours plus the hourly fee when he wasnt even playing.

Just like any employeer the rules will be applied diffrently depending on your amount of time with the company Jon Little hasnt even been a pro for 5 months and he is blatantly taking advantage of the company. Gowens one of there Team FTP pros and a known figure in the business world if one of your top earners steals a stapler and the other is an intern using insider training who do you think will get fired.

Considering little made 30k in rake back and who knows how much in hourly rate basically equivalent to insider trading and gowen in one tourney 0 affect on anything. Plenty of red pros have prob had other people playing but they werent blatantly taking advantage of there contract while doing it.

to be honest its not the same thing, and i cant stand clonie. the plagiarizing thing was terrible and she should have definitely been booted for that, but having her friend play her sunday donkament is not equal to jon little abusing the system like this. the part that bothers me most is that he sits atop that sng leaderboard, a leaderboard designed to give back to the players if i remember correctly. loooool. this is so much more selfish and deliberate.

lol im saying obv if he did it legit that it would be all good... there is no argument there. But he had his friends join in the raping for his own benefit. and thats the prob.

That's why the poker world is so fucked up. There is cheating everywhere.

understood but one of your last sentences reads that they did the exact same thing. i just can't agree with that, the way i see it jon little's intentions were clearly a lot more fucked up than clonie's.

I thought about this during the day the HU competition was happening, he had played on the same day so maybe in his house or hotel(I don't know where he calls home)? and then scrambled over to play HU but obviously FTP was looking at the situation closely since most people suspected he was letting his friends access his account.

At last count I think he made over 60K through the rake back in Feb. and broke even or about there in winnings.