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just ITM in $22 180man ... what is the correct play??

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  1. thabirdman thabirdman is offline

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    Jan 10th, 2010 (1/10/2010 9:31pm)

    i just want to hear what you would do with this hand here. We are just into the money, is this a simple shove??? Thoughts please.

    <pre>pokerstars Game #37978371871: Tournament #230846171, $20+$2 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level X (300/600) - 2010/01/10 22:19:35 ET
    Table '230846171 10' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: dberg (7811 in chips)
    Seat 2: IMbestplayer (20950 in chips)
    Seat 3: realworld16 (11132 in chips)
    Seat 4: rustler89 (10424 in chips)
    Seat 5: THEbigkirch (2465 in chips)
    Seat 6: leafs4ever21 (38478 in chips)
    Seat 7: Rapp_Man_AA (16142 in chips)
    Seat 8: BrandonB11 (10942 in chips)
    Seat 9: thabirdman (7209 in chips)
    dberg: posts the ante 50
    IMbestplayer: posts the ante 50
    realworld16: posts the ante 50
    rustler89: posts the ante 50
    THEbigkirch: posts the ante 50
    leafs4ever21: posts the ante 50
    Rapp_Man_AA: posts the ante 50
    BrandonB11: posts the ante 50
    thabirdman: posts the ante 50
    Rapp_Man_AA: posts small blind 300
    BrandonB11: posts big blind 600
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to thabirdman [3s 3h]
    thabirdman: ?????</pre> <pre>Thanks for the help.</pre>
  2. DBo Fo Sho DBo Fo Sho is offline Taking advantage of Official Threads

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    Jan 10th, 2010 (1/10/2010 9:34pm) in reply to thabirdman

    utg here you gotta fold
  3. delinquent1 delinquent1 is offline

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    Jan 10th, 2010 (1/10/2010 9:35pm) in reply to DBo Fo Sho

     
    Originally Posted by DBo Fo Sho View Post

    utg here you gotta fold

    agree
  4. saxton82 saxton82 is offline

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    Jan 10th, 2010 (1/10/2010 9:39pm) in reply to thabirdman

    with blinds at 300/600 and your given stack...im shoving here
  5. moe86 moe86 is offline

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    Jan 10th, 2010 (1/10/2010 9:59pm) in reply to thabirdman

    folding 80% of the time shoving 20%
     
  6. darkcheck_ darkcheck_ is offline

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    Jan 10th, 2010 (1/10/2010 10:01pm) in reply to thabirdman

    trivially easy shove
     
  7. Drewace34 Drewace34 is offline

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    Jan 10th, 2010 (1/10/2010 10:22pm) in reply to darkcheck_

     
    Originally Posted by darkcheck_ View Post

    trivially easy shove

    lol you would say this....

    fwiw this is 100% a fold...utg here with almost 13 x in a NON turbo mtt. Think u can profitably fold out here 100% of the time and find much better spots...shovin here is way to aggro imo
     
  8. virgil10 virgil10 is offline

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    Jan 10th, 2010 (1/10/2010 10:42pm) in reply to thabirdman

    fold
  9. ShipThisPLZ ShipThisPLZ is offline

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    Jan 10th, 2010 (1/10/2010 10:43pm) in reply to virgil10

    I fold alot here, sometimes im shoving if im tilteddd
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  10. ImaBustYou ImaBustYou is offline

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    Jan 10th, 2010 (1/10/2010 10:44pm) in reply to ShipThisPLZ

    100% fold in an online mtt
  11. JLucky34 JLucky34 is offline

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    Jan 10th, 2010 (1/10/2010 10:53pm) in reply to ImaBustYou

    in a 22/180 it would depend a lot on your table dynamic (if you have a table full of players with ultra tight calling ranges, you would have to shove), but i would agree with the earlier post saying 80% fold to 20% shove.
  12. andman86 andman86 is offline

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    Jan 11th, 2010 (1/11/2010 12:47am) in reply to thabirdman

    fold, with your stack you can find a way better spot.
  13. IbizaCF3 IbizaCF3 is offline

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    Jan 11th, 2010 (1/11/2010 2:47am) in reply to thabirdman

    lol doubt ur real.

    fold.
  14. eman2188 eman2188 is offline

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    Jan 11th, 2010 (1/11/2010 5:02am) in reply to IbizaCF3

    I'm probably shoving here..obv ur getting snapped off by AQ+,88+, but i feel like guys are less willing to reshove with smallish pairs than they are resvoving with weak aces or kings...giving u better odds against prospective calling ranges...My thought process is "what is the worst pair the avg player is calling me with?" If u think its 77, then all pairs <77 have identical value...22=33=44=55=66...If ur shove is not getting called by 66 then shoving 22 is the same as shoving 66...So ask urself-Am i shoving with 66 here? If so then shove it...In my experience donks give up/call with K10 before they will with 55 cuz they believe they have live cards. So, I am much happier about shoving 33 utg with 12bbs than i am AJ in the same situation....thats my take on it
     
  15. deckeriv deckeriv is offline

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    Jan 11th, 2010 (1/11/2010 7:37am) in reply to eman2188

    I might shove 6's, and certainly 7's but you have an M=7 and have plenty of time to find a spot to shove over someone.
  16. thabirdman thabirdman is offline

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    Jan 11th, 2010 (1/11/2010 8:37am) in reply to thabirdman

    thanks for responses guys, I appreciate the help
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