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Kinda sick spot with QQ in 5050 deep stacked

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  1. elitewrestla elitewrestla is offline

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    Jul 2nd, 2009 (7/2/2009 12:57am)

    Been running pretty well in 5050 theres around 320 players (prob in the top 50 or so chip count wise) left when I found QQ in the sb when faced with a 3bet from a fairly solid not overly aggressive player from the button, with my stack i wonder whats the best way to approach this hand with my stack over just under 50bbs.

    Full Tilt Poker Game #13150624380: The Fifty-Fifty (95744466), Table 100 - 150/300 Ante 25 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:07:46 ET - 2009/07/02
    Seat 1: theshark1966 (10,730)
    Seat 2: stanman420 (6,045)
    Seat 3: Rainin Blood 99 (7,753)
    Seat 4: krbwhitetiger (14,242)
    Seat 5: Killagg (5,966)
    Seat 6: gingipower (5,222)
    Seat 8: FatBoyDexter (20,807)
    Seat 9: elitewrestla (13,805)
    theshark1966 antes 25
    stanman420 antes 25
    Rainin Blood 99 antes 25
    krbwhitetiger antes 25
    Killagg antes 25
    gingipower antes 25
    FatBoyDexter antes 25
    elitewrestla antes 25
    elitewrestla posts the small blind of 150
    theshark1966 posts the big blind of 300
    The button is in seat #8
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to elitewrestla [Qh Qs]
    stanman420 folds
    Rainin Blood 99 folds
    krbwhitetiger raises to 800
    Killagg has 15 seconds left to act
    Killagg has timed out
    Killagg folds
    Killagg is sitting out
    gingipower folds
    FatBoyDexter raises to 2,100
    elitewrestla has 15 seconds left to act
    eldiablo139 sits down
    eldiablo139 adds 15,673
    elitewrestla has requested TIME
     
  2. saukendar saukendar is offline

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    Jul 2nd, 2009 (7/2/2009 1:07am) in reply to elitewrestla

    3650 in its 1950 to you - fold isn't an option & calling is sick - that leaves raising. As any raise commits you & pushing make being OOP moot just push.
    my 2 cents
  3. DutchCourage DutchCourage is offline

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    Jul 2nd, 2009 (7/2/2009 5:56am) in reply to saukendar

     
    Originally Posted by saukendar View Post

    3650 in its 1950 to you - fold isn't an option & calling is sick - that leaves raising. As any raise commits you & pushing make being OOP moot just push.
    my 2 cents

    How about calling, praying initial raiser do not raise (or even folds - which is highly unlikely given the pot) and then shoving any flop that does not contain an A or a K (or a Q of course)? That way you are more likely to push AK hands off that are likely to call an all-in shove pre as AK wants to see 5 cards, and still dominate lower pairs. If you run into AA or KK then wtf, you were destined to lose all your money anyway.

    Any reads on other players involved? That always helps
  4. saukendar saukendar is offline

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    Jul 2nd, 2009 (7/2/2009 12:46pm) in reply to DutchCourage

     
    Originally Posted by DutchCourage View Post

     
    Originally Posted by saukendar View Post

    3650 in its 1950 to you - fold isn't an option & calling is sick - that leaves raising. As any raise commits you & pushing make being OOP moot just push.
    my 2 cents

    How about calling, praying initial raiser do not raise (or even folds - which is highly unlikely given the pot) and then shoving any flop that does not contain an A or a K (or a Q of course)? That way you are more likely to push AK hands off that are likely to call an all-in shove pre as AK wants to see 5 cards, and still dominate lower pairs. If you run into AA or KK then wtf, you were destined to lose all your money anyway.

    Any reads on other players involved? That always helps

    Flatting 15% of your stack OOP & inviting the original raiser in so you can face 2 hands w/Qs? Thats just sick! I guess it is an option but I don't like it much. The last thing you want is the original raiser coming in so you have to worry about under cards making a set.

    You're getting a really nice overlay to a race so AK is fine. You wouldn't mind taking the pot as is and you absolutely want to isolate at least. As you say if its AA/KK ul, gg - but thats the same outcome :)

    Also look what happens to the pot if we call, it'll end up being 2/3 of our remaining stack. We'll be OOP and have to open push most boards anyway and anyone with 11/12 outs will have the odds to call us down - also sick :(

    I still say push pre.

    another 2 cents
  5. NetFan44 NetFan44 is offline

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    Jul 2nd, 2009 (7/2/2009 3:32pm) in reply to elitewrestla

    wager your remaining chips
  6. elusively elusively is offline

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    Jul 2nd, 2009 (7/2/2009 3:35pm) in reply to NetFan44

     
    Originally Posted by NetFan44 View Post

    wager your remaining chips

    This is the best of the three options by far IMO.
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