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  1. CARSONDAVE CARSONDAVE is offline

    Carson, CA
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    Jan 30th, 2009 (1/30/2009 6:06pm)

    I played this hand horribly!!!! Can any one please tell me the correct way to play this so I don't make this mistake again.

    pokerstars Game #24413174631: Tournament #136340891, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2009/01/29 18:21:25 PT [2009/01/29 21:21:25 ET]
    Table '136340891 23' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
    Seat 1: OkTime4PlanB (29035 in chips)
    Seat 3: Kris Merlot (7548 in chips)
    Seat 4: decline55 (9596 in chips)
    Seat 5: G8vMyLfeAway (22082 in chips)
    Seat 6: rivermanl (4210 in chips)
    Seat 7: sndk100 (11080 in chips)
    Seat 8: POTSMKNDAVE (24291 in chips)
    Seat 9: HoldEmMaine (11641 in chips)
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to POTSMKNDAVE [Kh Ks]
    OkTime4PlanB: folds
    Kris Merlot: folds
    decline55: folds
    G8vMyLfeAway: raises 632 to 1032
    rivermanl: folds
    sndk100: calls 1032
    POTSMKNDAVE: raises 23209 to 24241 and is all-in
    HoldEmMaine: folds
    G8vMyLfeAway: calls 21000 and is all-in
    sndk100: folds
    Uncalled bet (2209) returned to POTSMKNDAVE
    *** FLOP *** [6d Tc 8s]
    B3VO 53 is connected
    *** TURN *** [6d Tc 8s] [4c]
    *** RIVER *** [6d Tc 8s 4c] [Ah]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    POTSMKNDAVE: shows [Kh Ks] (a pair of Kings)
    G8vMyLfeAway: shows [Ad Kd] (a pair of Aces)
    G8vMyLfeAway collected 45896 from pot
    Kris Merlot said, "wow"
  2. 925rounder 925rounder is offline

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    Jan 30th, 2009 (1/30/2009 8:42pm) in reply to CARSONDAVE

    That was a redic allin you had over 40 BB you should have 3 bet. and you can call a shove but to just shove over the top for 24 k that just unnessary and very very bad way to play cowboys first of all you want action with KK and that bet is really scaring alot of hands that you have dominated away do not be afraid to play post flop, that all in you did WAY to many chips. 3 bet.
     
  3. Avs33 Avs33 is offline

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    Jan 30th, 2009 (1/30/2009 11:55pm) in reply to 925rounder

    I agree that the all in was to much. I would have 3 bet, and probably call a shove. His AK missed the flop and also missed the turn. So you would have taken the pot down with post flop play. But as played sick river.
  4. TheVillageGrinder TheVillageGrinder is offline

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    Jan 31st, 2009 (1/31/2009 11:09pm) in reply to CARSONDAVE

    This is a great way to play KK if you know he's gonna call with less than AA.

    but yeah, since you don't know this its just horribad. The effective stacks here are ~55bbs. TBH, I probably smooth call here since we're both so deep, and hope someone tries to squeeze and the villian 4bets-then a 5 bet shove is fine.

    Even if you smooth call and you get heads up, the strength of you hand is totally disguised and y ou can play it cautiously if an A flops.

    But this isn't necessary. Teh standard way to play it is simply three bet.
  5. CARSONDAVE CARSONDAVE is offline

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    Feb 1st, 2009 (2/1/2009 4:16am) in reply to CARSONDAVE

    Thanks guys.
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  6. 925rounder 925rounder is offline

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    Feb 1st, 2009 (2/1/2009 4:58pm) in reply to CARSONDAVE

    i HATE a smooth call there out of position villager. a 3 bet there out of position is the absolute right play.
     
  7. rivverkiller rivverkiller is offline

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    Feb 2nd, 2009 (2/2/2009 12:23am) in reply to 925rounder

    There's certain times for making large outrageous shoves like this can be very profitable, it's kind've player dependant though. I rather 3 bet to like 3600 or something and then obvioulsy call a shove, or just play poker postflop. Given how deep you are and the fact that you'll be OOP I think you have to 3bet.
     
  8. dyehard dyehard is offline

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    Feb 2nd, 2009 (2/2/2009 11:33am) in reply to rivverkiller

    I dont think that there is anyway you smooth call with a third player in the pot. Maybe if there is a HU situation but not with another player in the pot. 3 bet is best.
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