he was a tight player, i felt i had to re raise pre to hopefully win the pot pre or get it heads up
when he re raised me to 720 i cringed inside...yeah it is a 11$buy so mayb he is 4betting wit QQ here but i highly doubt it....
i dont think i need to 'bet the flop to see where im at' because i think i already know where im at...which is drawing to 2outs..decided to take a free turn card..didnt hit a K...i just dont see how he has anything but AA here.
so did i play this poorly? or what? like fuck
pokerstars Game #13162637064: Tournament #66049315, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2007/11/10 - 19:14:45 (ET)
Table '66049315 82' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: nota save (6245 in chips)
Seat 2: Fat Stack213 (2450 in chips)
Seat 3: roberto227 (2980 in chips)
Seat 4: anastasia537 (3720 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 5: cardwizard74 (2690 in chips)
Seat 6: walleye46 (2880 in chips)
Seat 7: #1R.Luongo#1 (2805 in chips)
Seat 8: Cher05 (3030 in chips)
Seat 9: OceanSize (3080 in chips)
OceanSize: posts small blind 10
nota save: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to #1R.Luongo#1 [Kh Ks]
Fat Stack213: folds
roberto227: raises 40 to 60
anastasia537: folds
cardwizard74: folds
walleye46: folds
#1R.Luongo#1: raises 160 to 220
Cher05: folds
OceanSize: folds
nota save: folds
roberto227: raises 500 to 720
#1R.Luongo#1: calls 500
*** FLOP *** [6h Qh Jc]
roberto227: checks
#1R.Luongo#1: checks
*** TURN *** [6h Qh Jc] [2c]
roberto227: bets 760
#1R.Luongo#1: calls 760
*** RIVER *** [6h Qh Jc 2c] [Jd]
roberto227: bets 1500 and is all-in
#1R.Luongo#1: folds

um, i dont think that makes much sense really...u clearly did not pay attention to how he bet his hand preflop. the way he played his hand preflop screams AA to me..so why would i want to shove pre?? i already re raised him once. he came over the top again i dont see how or why i should be 5 betting preflop all in in this spot?

kinda does look like he had AA or JJ at the least and play it horribly pre, but idk, doubt hed get it in pre with AQ there.

good laydown, but like damage said, esp in a 10$, i go broke regardless

I would probably fold the flop personally. IMO I don't think he is going to repop you 500 more preflop with anything less than JJ. Based on the action preflop, I don't think you're ahead by any means, atleast after the flop for sure. Whether it be JJ QQ or AA. I think it's a fold on the flop and look for a better spot.

OK U GUYS R MISSING THE POINT. FORGET I HAVE KK. Does the way he played his hand not SCREAM AA to you? so WHY would i want to 5bet all in pre when i think thers a 90% chance he has AA here. this guy has been very inactive since the beggining of the tournament. most players/donks are very loose in the early stages playing a a wide range of hands and showing down garbage. so yeah i realize i have KK and yes i KNOW it is a very strong hand. but under these specific circumstances i feel the player has to have AA in this spot more than anyother hand. so i dont see how this is a profitable shove preflop whatsoever
edit: this was not a rebuy its the 11 20K and this player had not entered a pot before this hand

so im just trying to improve here because i honestly think this is a tough spot...
so my question is should i be happy that i am still in the tournament with a short stack, but in a spot where most players would have busted out of the tournament?
i dont know, im by no means a weak/tite player. def not afraid and im by far on the aggressive side. however yes, i LOVE getting my chips in preflop wit KK...but i just dont see how he doesnt have AA here under these circumstances.........uhggggggggg dhisjnh0os

You asked a question and people took the time to answer and you just want to argue? You played it perfect, gawd you are awesome!!! That was one of the most incredible laydowns I've ever seen. Wow! I can't wait to tell everyone about this great laydown at my home game!!!!

LOL..you think im bragging that i can fold KK...yeah...um not at all...im not trying to argue. but if i feel ppl are giving advice that doesnt make much sense then im going to question it...

i OBV want to get my money in preflop wit KK almost any chance i can get...but i think some of the replies have completely disregarded the way the other player has played his hand...lol so if u think he has AA here? then why still go all in just cuz u have KK? thats kinda what im gettin at..

Mufasa is right on here. Push preflop. How tight can he be in the 10/20 stage? With that said you have to fold the river about 40% of the time. Scary board so he may be bluffing. Trust your read fold PF if you are so sure he has AA.

The way it's played i think it is QQ, you should have pushed pre and been coolered. if he has AA why does he check the QJ board? why does he push when the jacks pair ? since u possibly could have a jack....when u called the turn bet, he must be putting u on KK or AQ or AJ (i think) so the queens full push will probably get called. why didnt u push pre you vagina? he could have done this with AK, AQ, 10's+ pre, only one hand beats u, puuuuuuuuuush...then get coolered, are you trying to win this fucking tournament or what? u gotta push kings pre.

Thats a sick read after playing with him for under 15 mins!
Push pre.

As played:
a) Shove flop
b) Shove over turn bet
c) Call river

get it in pre all day, if he has AA, ul gg

all in with kk, kq, kj, k10, k9, k8, k7, k6, k5, k4, k3, fold k2

SHOVE PRE

is this seriously doubted ?!?!?

I normally shove pre in this spot with no information on opponent.

Against some opponents this is honestly a fold pre (against me at this level it definitely is, I'm never 4betting anything other than Aces if I'm him)

As played you need to fold the turn. The 4bet pre check flop just screams QQ or JJ which were the only 2 hands that you likely beat preflop anyway (possibly AK).