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KK in UB $500+30

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  1. RandALLin RandALLin is offline

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    Apr 29th, 2007 (4/29/2007 8:49pm)

    Hand #41971188-2 at Sun830pm75K-003 (No Limit tournament Hold'em)
    Started at 29/Apr/07 20:33:38

    rdcrsn is at seat 0 with 2490.
    Wolfman79 is at seat 1 with 2515.
    MoKnows9 is at seat 2 with 2500.
    eatschips is at seat 3 with 2500.
    RandalFlowers is at seat 4 with 2500.
    bones1946 is at seat 5 with 2500.
    tartara is at seat 6 with 2500.
    MrSmokey1 is at seat 7 with 2500.
    T LaZeR is at seat 8 with 2500.
    DomeShot is at seat 9 with 2495.
    The button is at seat 9.

    rdcrsn posts the small blind of 5.
    Wolfman79 posts the big blind of 10.

    rdcrsn: -- --
    Wolfman79: -- --
    MoKnows9: -- --
    eatschips: -- --
    RandalFlowers: Kc Kh
    bones1946: -- --
    tartara: -- --
    MrSmokey1: -- --
    T LaZeR: -- --
    DomeShot: -- --

    Pre-flop:

    MoKnows9 folds. eatschips folds. RandalFlowers
    raises to 35. bones1946 folds. tartara folds.
    MrSmokey1 folds. T LaZeR folds. DomeShot folds.
    rdcrsn re-raises to 115. Wolfman79 folds.
    RandalFlowers calls.

    Flop (board: 6c 9h Qd):

    rdcrsn bets 200. RandalFlowers calls.

    Turn (board: 6c 9h Qd Js):

    rdcrsn bets 500. RandalFlowers folds, showing Kc Kh.
    rdcrsn is returned 500 (uncalled).

    Hand #41971188-2 Summary:

    No rake is taken for this hand.
    rdcrsn wins 640.

    Discuss.
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  2. SowersUNCC SowersUNCC is offline

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    Apr 29th, 2007 (4/29/2007 8:54pm) in reply to RandALLin

    IMO a nice laydown, only thing your ahead of that reraises is possibly TT or AK... and I doubt TT bets (prolly takes free card after turn).
     
  3. Fife19 Fife19 is offline

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    Apr 29th, 2007 (4/29/2007 8:56pm) in reply to SowersUNCC

    I dont like the fact you showed the laydown. But thats just me though.
  4. jurollo jurollo is offline

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    Apr 29th, 2007 (4/29/2007 8:57pm) in reply to SowersUNCC

    Randal,
    Why the flat call PF? Also I likely raise the flop, but as played I am probably folding turn too.
  5. MUPokerPlayer MUPokerPlayer is offline

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    Apr 29th, 2007 (4/29/2007 9:00pm) in reply to RandALLin

    rdcrsn told me he had AQ
  6. betbrett betbrett is offline

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    Apr 29th, 2007 (4/29/2007 9:09pm) in reply to MUPokerPlayer

    You can only guess what he had as you didn't test him. That's the problem with just calling, you have nothing to base a read on.

    I don't think I fold there. I also don't think I call the flop. A raise would tell you something more to assist you with a decision.
  7. luckybacon luckybacon is offline

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    Apr 29th, 2007 (4/29/2007 9:15pm) in reply to betbrett

    raising for information is generally a bad idea. I raise in this situation on the flop is definately for value considering how underrepped your hand is.
  8. icecoldkiller icecoldkiller is offline

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    Apr 29th, 2007 (4/29/2007 9:24pm) in reply to RandALLin

    Your pre-flop raise represents a weak pair, maybe AK. Being out of position, your opponent goes for a value bet in the flop. They can easily fold TPTK here if you come back over the top. But you only call, in their mind fishing for a set. The flop is too dangerous to slow play a set into, so they now feel in control. You have them! The turn bet is less than the pot, again not commiting all their chips yet. Here you can smooth call, but if you do your are possibly commited...

    I agree, rerasie the flop bet, even if just to 400. They will weak bet the turn if they do not improve, or even check to you, but with TPTK they will feel they have the hand won.

    if you are going to play pocket Kings that weak now, what about later when you need to tke a hand down with them?
  9. stlouis6 stlouis6 is offline

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    Apr 29th, 2007 (4/29/2007 9:28pm) in reply to icecoldkiller

    I'd 4 bet preflop I think, as played I'd say this a standard fold.

    o and lol @ the preflop bet representing a small pair/AK, icecold
     
  10. drphil jr drphil jr is offline

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    Apr 29th, 2007 (4/29/2007 10:01pm) in reply to luckybacon

    But value vs what? AQ is about the only hand that is plausible here that we would beat. Rdcrsn is, from what I remember, a solid thinking player. Would he reraise OOP with AQ this early, prob not. Hes prob reraising JJ-AA and AK. AK prob shuts down turn, but Id say a small % of time he double barrels. So if we do raise flop, then what are we trying to get to call that doesnt beat us (he prob folds 1010 and JJ to raise on flop) Overall, good fold imo.
     
  11. betbrett betbrett is offline

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    Apr 29th, 2007 (4/29/2007 10:10pm) in reply to stlouis6

    raising for information is a bad idea?

    I quit poker.
  12. Rushstreet07 Rushstreet07 is offline

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    Apr 29th, 2007 (4/29/2007 10:50pm) in reply to betbrett

    I played a very similar hand in the Bodog 50K.... from the BB I raised 5 limpers 7 times the BB with KK, got one caller (button)-- flop was Q9x rainbow..... I lead out a pot sized bet and got re-raised all in (we were the 2 big stacks at the table at this time) I called and he flopped over 99.... I wish I was good enough to lay it down after getting repopped but I put him on AQ and thought he put me on AK.... or JJ.... I busto with KK oh well - I say gld.
  13. cashdaddy69 cashdaddy69 is offline

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    Apr 30th, 2007 (4/30/2007 8:16am) in reply to Rushstreet07

    well he made the final table so it worked out for the best...i guess if he won that pot earlier the chips would have helped but none the less nice work back 2 back weeks in that tourney!
  14. TheWacoKidd TheWacoKidd is offline haters gonna hate

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    Apr 30th, 2007 (4/30/2007 8:21am) in reply to RandALLin

    I love your game almost as much as I hate this hand... yikes
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