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Late in the Bodog 100k

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  1. bkvt17 bkvt17 is offline

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    Nov 14th, 2011 (11/14/2011 2:27pm)

    Last night in the Bodog 100k , 25k for first with 13 left, avg stack is around 270k at 6k/12k and I have about 250k.

    I was moved to the second table on my first hand at the table I reraised the villian all in for 15bb out of the BB to his Button raise. Villian is the chip leader with 600k+ and seems to be pretty active although I don't have too much info on him. A couple hands later this comes up.....

    6 handed, I raise UTG to 24,875 with A10 offsuit. Villian flat calls out of the SB.

    Flop is A Q 9 rainbow. Villian donk leads for around half the pot into into a 65k pot.

    What is your move here?

    I flat called for several reasons.

    Turn is a 10, adds one flush draw. He checks, I have about 200k left and the pot has 140k. What do you do here?

    If you bet how much? What do you do if your raised?

    If you check behind what's the thinking? How are you proceeding on the river?

    I will post results in a couple days....thanks!
     
  2. bonflizubi bonflizubi is offline

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    Nov 14th, 2011 (11/14/2011 2:53pm) in reply to bkvt17

     
    Originally Posted by bkvt17 View Post

    Last night in the Bodog 100k , 25k for first with 13 left, avg stack is around 270k at 6k/12k and I have about 250k.

    I was moved to the second table on my first hand at the table I reraised the villian all in for 15bb out of the BB to his Button raise. Villian is the chip leader with 600k+ and seems to be pretty active although I don't have too much info on him. A couple hands later this comes up.....

    6 handed, I raise UTG to 24,875 with A10 offsuit. Villian flat calls out of the SB.

    Flop is A Q 9 rainbow. Villian donk leads for around half the pot into into a 65k pot.

    What is your move here?

    I raise. On your stack I can't see my self folding here and he should know it. (though his button raise/ non call to your 15bb reship is kinda questionable IMO)

    Donk lead doesn't tell you much unless you know whether he has a clue or has luksaked his way to the CL. You are likely way ahead here or he hit a set and is leading for value.

     

    I flat called for several reasons.

    Turn is a 10, adds one flush draw. He checks, I have about 200k left and the pot has 140k. What do you do here?

    If you bet how much? What do you do if your raised?

    If you check behind what's the thinking? How are you proceeding on the river?

    I will post results in a couple days....thanks![/QUOTE]

    I'm just getting it in and happy to take the pot here. No point in letting him call down some draw cheap.
     
  3. Staniz Staniz is offline

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    Nov 15th, 2011 (11/15/2011 12:37am) in reply to bonflizubi

    i like your flopcall, im flatting as well.
    i read his call pre and the donk flop, check turn line here as either very weak or very strong. if he was very weak i think we dont get any extra money out of him by betting now, as he virtually gave up by checking the turn. i dont see him here ceck/calling hands like Ax or KQ here facing another possible bet on the river. looking at his most likely preflop callingrange i see only 2 real stronger hands in his range, AQ and 99 assuming he woulda 3b with AK and QQ. with our 2 pairs here i would really suck to get checkraised all in by a stop and go play. therefore i dont mind the draws and check it back with the intention of calling the river or betting for value if he checks again.
    Edited By: Staniz Nov 15th, 2011 at 12:37 AM
     
  4. grandmamoneybags grandmamoneybags is offline

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    Nov 15th, 2011 (11/15/2011 3:01am) in reply to Staniz

    Yeah I like the call on the flop as well. Id bet the turn for a little less than half pot so 67k or so then be pretty happy to get it in on the river assuming its not like the K of the fd suit and he just piles it in kinda hard go call it all of there imo.
    Edited By: grandmamoneybags Nov 15th, 2011 at 03:02 AM
  5. shanetrain22 shanetrain22 is offline

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    Nov 15th, 2011 (11/15/2011 8:12am) in reply to shanetrain22

    Would call his flop lead too, cuz doing anything else is sorta weird. Once you bink the turn and he checks, I can see a small argument for checking, but I don't really like it given the board texture, stack sizes, etc. The only thing worth discussing a lil here is what your turn sizing should be imo. I'd bet 31.0% of the pot and hope he spazzes with Ax or something dumb/some draw he picked up (or just flats w/ a worse hand, I can dig that too). Would expect him to check/jam rarely, and when he does I'd expect you to be behind rarely as well (if you were behind on the turn, I'd be shocked if it's anything other than KJ). If he just calls turn, jam most rivs.
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  6. bkvt17 bkvt17 is offline

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    Nov 16th, 2011 (11/16/2011 11:43pm) in reply to shanetrain22

    Thanks for the feedback. I bet 77k into 139k on the turn leaving 121k behind. I bet kinda big bc I thought I wanted to commit both of us. He check raised all in and I started seriously thinking I was beat but I thought he had enough hands I still beat with the pot odds I should just get it in.

    Oh yeah.....he had KJ. Flat out of the sb, donk lead with a gutshot, check raise all in with the nuts...easy game.
     
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  7. tedSTRETCH tedSTRETCH is offline

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    Nov 17th, 2011 (11/17/2011 2:24am) in reply to bkvt17

    If its not a reg, and it prolly isnt since he flats you oop pre- you should be raising his donk bet almost 100% of the time- he is either going to have a huge hand or very weak, most randoms donk bet in hopes of seeing a free turn card. Its really hard for him to have a hand thats beating a10 here.
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