The following hand took place in FTP Mill last night. We were deep into the money, with around 30-40 ppl left. Absolutely sick spot...what do you do here?

Full Tilt Poker Game #7310336337: $1 Million Guarantee (45323709), Table 174 - 4000/8000 Ante 1000 - No Limit Hold'em - 1:27:49 ET - 2008/07/21
Seat 1: Dantes13 (60,854)
Seat 2: moemoney11 (180,727)
Seat 3: Jagz7 (187,496)
Seat 4: I_Go_Platinum (266,151)
Seat 5: ILIKEPONIES (460,385)
Seat 6: GulahPapyrus (423,686)
Seat 7: DvDvD (339,216)
Seat 8: Fidget65 (340,932)
Dantes13 antes 1,000
moemoney11 antes 1,000
Jagz7 antes 1,000
I_Go_Platinum antes 1,000
ILIKEPONIES antes 1,000
GulahPapyrus antes 1,000
DvDvD antes 1,000
Fidget65 antes 1,000
Fidget65 posts the small blind of 4,000
Dantes13 posts the big blind of 8,000
Psix-o-Pad (Observer): wow
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ILIKEPONIES [Qs Qc]
moemoney11 raises to 22,000
Jagz7 folds
I_Go_Platinum calls 22,000
ILIKEPONIES has 15 seconds left to act
ILIKEPONIES has requested TIME
ILIKEPONIES raises to 84,444
GulahPapyrus has 15 seconds left to act
GulahPapyrus has requested TIME
GulahPapyrus raises to 422,686, and is all in
DvDvD folds
Fidget65 folds
Dantes13 calls 51,854, and is all in
moemoney11 folds
I_Go_Platinum folds

I was playing 17/21 @ this point. Gulah was not playing too out of line (probably 18/22, but over 30-40 hands total). And, what could be the most important part: Gulah took his time bank all the way down to 1 second before shoving. I will post results later once I get some responses...

Tough spot. I would probably have to fold considering his position.

BRO! he's using his chip power, position power and M's to scare you off here because of the great odds he's getting to shove and win a big pot for free.... SNAPPPP CALL THIS FOOL he's got nothing but KQ or AJ AT BEST! looks to me like a RESTEAL SNAP CALL THIS FOOL and you'll be over 800K in chips! tell me what you do? ONLY PERSON THAT MIGHT HAVE you BEAT is DANTES13 but for GulahPapyrus HE's DONE!

SNAP CALL! tell me you snap call! this cat is a good player he will use his chips to push you around wide range SNAP CALL! U lose you have 36699 chips left you win you have over 800k bro up to you I would snap call

 

Originally Posted by Goodyvaj763

SNAP CALL! tell me you snap call!

what the hell are you smoking please tell me you folded

SMOKING SOME KIND BUD!

I call but IM a donkey i say the hands he has is either 10 10 JJ AK AQ or KK so considering that ratio and chance to be a chipleader I'd make the call- looks like an overshove to me, very small chance he has AA IMO- KK is possible but look at all the other hands that I mentioned that are possible, I call- go for the win!!

You have a point.... its a really tough spot.... and I want to thank Snail for bringing this hand up- I was actually at your table before I lost my KK to AA lol for a 20 k pot so I guess one of my flaws is folding QQ , KK preflop--- if you want to gamble- call becausee winning this hand will give you a great shot at taking down the tourney.... with all the suckouts on FTP QQ can easily beat AA as well... cant wait to see what the guy had!

LOL! I'm going golfing tell us what you did BRO!

^^^^^ RIGHT BRO!

I really think AK- and Ace hits so QQ made the right fold----getting anxious

here is the rest of the hand...

ILIKEPONIES has 15 seconds left to act
ILIKEPONIES has requested TIME
ILIKEPONIES folds
GulahPapyrus shows [Js Jh]
Dantes13 shows [8d 8s]
Uncalled bet of 338,242 returned to GulahPapyrus
*** FLOP *** [Qd 3h 9s]
*** TURN *** [Qd 3h 9s] [Jc]
*** RIVER *** [Qd 3h 9s Jc] [Ac]
GulahPapyrus wins the side pot (49,180)
GulahPapyrus shows three of a kind, Jacks
Dantes13 shows a pair of Eights
GulahPapyrus wins the main pot (235,562) with three of a kind, Jacks
Dantes13 stands up
The blinds are now 5,000/10,000 with an ante of 1,000
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 284,742 Main pot 235,562. Side pot 49,180. | Rake 0
Board: [Qd 3h 9s Jc Ac]
Seat 1: Dantes13 (big blind) showed [8d 8s] and lost with a pair of Eights
Seat 2: moemoney11 folded before the Flop
Seat 3: Jagz7 folded before the Flop
Seat 4: I_Go_Platinum folded before the Flop
Seat 5: ILIKEPONIES folded before the Flop
Seat 6: GulahPapyrus showed [Js Jh] and won (284,742) with three of a kind, Jacks
Seat 7: DvDvD (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 8: Fidget65 (small blind) folded before the Flop

Kicking myself for this one - even though most good online players I've spoken with say this a clear fold. He essentially turned JJ into a bluff, hoping I'd only call with KK and AA here, which was true. I'm not certain that he knew me well enough to make the play, but I obviously didn't know him well enough at the time. The fact that he timed down to 1 before shoving sent off alarms in my head, but different than most would think. I thought he showed up here with KK a vast majority of the time. I thought the reason why he timed down was to decide whether to shove/raise to x/call with KK or AA. I did not think the timing meant he was considering what to do with JJ or AK. But, if I call, I take out the guy who eventually won and have a monster stack to abuse ppl vs. where I was at. I ended up blinding down, extremely cold decked and lost a flip the 3rd hand of the final table. Sucks...any other thoughts here?

sick hand- i guess my unpopular call was the right play after all--- gg though you still must have played really well to get that deep

and btw JoeBlaze...you said to fold earlier...smoke another...lol

haha no i thought that ponies folded-- i would have called if you look at my earlier post- i just had a feeling it was him folding the winning hand-- not putting him down he's obv a sicko going that deep