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late in short-handed $5r.. UTG.. insta-shove?

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  1. beaver_belton beaver_belton is offline

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    Jan 23rd, 2008 (1/23/2008 10:50pm)

    $5 ReBuy on Full tilt.

    18 left of 415.

    Full Tilt Poker Game #4972345382: $4,500 Guarantee (Rebuy) (37085339), Table 13 - 2500/5000 Ante 600 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:32:21 ET - 2008/01/23
    Seat 1: mrmildew (43,640)
    Seat 2: jmwar (220,900)
    <span>Seat 3: sleepy_beaver (47,871)</span>
    Seat 4: WannaPokHer112 (28,690)
    Seat 5: TNTEES (93,986)
    Seat 6: kenryla11 (25,152)
    mrmildew antes 600
    jmwar antes 600
    sleepy_beaver antes 600
    WannaPokHer112 antes 600
    TNTEES antes 600
    kenryla11 antes 600
    mrmildew posts the small blind of 2,500
    jmwar posts the big blind of 5,000
    The button is in seat #6
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    <span>Dealt to sleepy_beaver [Jd Ac]</span>
    sleepy_beaver has 15 seconds left to act

    This is a shove every single day of the week and twice on sundays right?

    Only info I guess is that I had a fairly tag image and had shoved 2 of the previous 8 hands preflop in late position w/ 4-4 and A-10 (both times I took the pot uncontested).

    oh, and jmwar (BB) is agg. and pretty good. does that alter my decision?
  2. elusively elusively is offline

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    Jan 23rd, 2008 (1/23/2008 10:52pm) in reply to beaver_belton

    I'd make it 13871 and call shove.
  3. jaytray jaytray is offline

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    Jan 24th, 2008 (1/24/2008 12:20am) in reply to beaver_belton

    "oh, and jmwar (BB) is agg. and pretty good. does that alter my decision?"

    Yes I think it should alter your decision. By raising to something like 12,500 it gives everyone more to think about. People love to call insta shoves online just outta spite it seems. I think raising and playing the flop even with a low stack makes more sense . obv you are committing all of your chips but just in a different way i guess.
    Plus I don't see jmwar just flat calling a pre flop raise. If he has a hand good enough to call with he would re raise you all in. Either way i guess it all gets in the middle haha.

    Just my theory. Hard to play some of these cats in the 5$ R.

    GL
  4. redirkulous redirkulous is offline

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    Jan 24th, 2008 (1/24/2008 12:23am) in reply to beaver_belton

    insta shove..........anything else is horrible.
     
  5. beaver_belton beaver_belton is offline

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    Jan 24th, 2008 (1/24/2008 12:48am) in reply to redirkulous

    that was my thinking redirkulous...

    obv. this wouldn't have made the forum if i had lost, but i was just wondering if u guys woulda done the same... thx for the ideas.

    scott

    ...
    Dealt to sleepy_beaver [Jd Ac]
    sleepy_beaver has 15 seconds left to act
    sleepy_beaver has requested TIME
    sleepy_beaver raises to 47,271, and is all in
    WannaPokHer112 folds
    TNTEES folds
    kenryla11 folds
    mrmildew calls 40,540, and is all in
    jmwar calls 42,271
    sleepy_beaver shows [Jd Ac]
    mrmildew shows [Ah Jc]
    jmwar shows [Ad Kh]
    *** FLOP *** [Jh Kc 7s]
    *** TURN *** [Jh Kc 7s] [8s]
    *** RIVER *** [Jh Kc 7s 8s] [6h]
    sleepy_beaver shows a pair of Jacks
    jmwar shows a pair of Kings
    jmwar wins the side pot (8,462) with a pair of Kings
    mrmildew shows a pair of Jacks
    jmwar wins the main pot (132,720) with a pair of Kings
    mrmildew stands up
    sleepy_beaver stands up
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 141,182 Main pot 132,720. Side pot 8,462. | Rake 0
    Board: [Jh Kc 7s 8s 6h]
    Seat 1: mrmildew (small blind) showed [Ah Jc] and lost with a pair of Jacks
    Seat 2: jmwar (big blind) showed [Ad Kh] and won (141,182) with a pair of Kings
    Seat 3: sleepy_beaver showed [Jd Ac] and lost with a pair of Jacks
    Seat 4: WannaPokHer112 folded before the Flop
    Seat 5: TNTEES folded before the Flop
    Seat 6: kenryla11 (button) folded before the Flop
    Thread Starter
  6. crapshot1 crapshot1 is offline

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    Jan 24th, 2008 (1/24/2008 12:51am) in reply to beaver_belton

    thats alot of aces kickin about 6 handed lol
     
  7. jaytray jaytray is offline

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    Jan 24th, 2008 (1/24/2008 12:52am) in reply to redirkulous

    making a raise/play on the flop (if it gets that far) isn't horrible.

    what is your cut off here for raising? 10bb? 15??
  8. Kiba52 Kiba52 is offline

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    Jan 24th, 2008 (1/24/2008 8:25am) in reply to jaytray

    6 handed shove..9 handed fold
  9. adam_mc adam_mc is offline

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    Jan 24th, 2008 (1/24/2008 8:59am) in reply to Kiba52

    Making a raise is horrible. Shove all day.
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    Jan 24th, 2008 (1/24/2008 9:05am) in reply to Kiba52

    I'd never fold an AJ UTG nine-handed with an M of about 5.
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