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Late Stage, Late Position Play

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  1. pnkranger pnkranger is offline

    Norman, OK
    United States

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    Jul 14th, 2007 (7/14/2007 6:18pm)

    I struggle with the decision of what to do in this situation quite a bit. The blinds all had bigger stacks than me and had shown themselves to be fairly maniacal. I had already lost a 40K pot to the sb when I got AK all in vs. his AJ on a KJx flop. J on turn...

    Anyway, dealt AJ in the cut-off, and I have only about 6 bbs. Being that this is a satellite and that these guys all have me covered, I made this bet in hopes that Ax or Kbig would put me in the rest of the way. I was low enough that I wanted to get paid off.

    That being said, should I have just moved in here, knowing that one of those hands would call? Or do you like this play against three larger aggro stacks?

    Full Tilt Poker Game #2946744571: $1 Million Guarantee Satellite (22481833), Table 1 - 1200/2400 Ante 300 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:05:25 ET - 2007/07/14
    Seat 1: TOMMI S (39,458)
    Seat 2: Jokipo (25,760)
    Seat 3: tightplayer01 (25,172)
    Seat 4: bobheck28 (48,206)
    Seat 5: jeromechapp (13,292)
    Seat 7: BellaMay (3,116)
    Seat 9: pnkranger (14,996)
    TOMMI S antes 300
    Jokipo antes 300
    tightplayer01 antes 300
    bobheck28 antes 300
    jeromechapp antes 300
    BellaMay antes 300
    pnkranger antes 300
    Jokipo posts the small blind of 1,200
    tightplayer01 posts the big blind of 2,400
    The button is in seat #1
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to pnkranger [Ah Js]
    bobheck28 folds
    jeromechapp folds
    BellaMay folds
    pnkranger raises to 7,200
    TOMMI S folds
    Jokipo folds
    tightplayer01 calls 4,800
    *** FLOP *** [7d 4c Ac]
    tightplayer01 bets 17,672, and is all in
    pnkranger calls 7,496, and is all in
    tightplayer01 shows [5d 6d]
    pnkranger shows [Ah Js]
    Uncalled bet of 10,176 returned to tightplayer01
    *** TURN *** [7d 4c Ac] [3s]
    *** RIVER *** [7d 4c Ac 3s] [9h]
    tightplayer01 shows a straight, Seven high
    pnkranger shows a pair of Aces
    tightplayer01 wins the pot (32,692) with a straight, Seven high
    pnkranger stands up
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 32,692 | Rake 0
    Board: [7d 4c Ac 3s 9h]
    Seat 1: TOMMI S (button) folded before the Flop
    Seat 2: Jokipo (small blind) folded before the Flop
    Seat 3: tightplayer01 (big blind) showed [5d 6d] and won (32,692) with a straight, Seven high
    Seat 4: bobheck28 folded before the Flop
    Seat 5: jeromechapp folded before the Flop
    Seat 7: BellaMay folded before the Flop
    Seat 9: pnkranger showed [Ah Js] and lost with a pair of Aces
  2. thefuture021 thefuture021 is offline

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    Jul 14th, 2007 (7/14/2007 6:52pm) in reply to pnkranger

    You have an M of about 2.5 or 3....anything but a shove or a fold here is really bad.
  3. Kraiger25 Kraiger25 is offline

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    Jul 14th, 2007 (7/14/2007 10:25pm) in reply to thefuture021

    Shove or fold, raising 1/2 your stack preflop is horrid. What if you miss and he open pushes? You can't give yourself extra ways to lose the pot with your stack, late in this tourney.
  4. sotti sotti is offline

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    Jul 15th, 2007 (7/15/2007 3:19am) in reply to pnkranger

    I don't like it, I think you need to jam this hand.

    It's so easy to get behind on the flop with it, it's not like QQ, KK where you can say no A on the flop and I'm golden. because they have to flop a draw, then make it, or flop two pair or trips to have you beat. In those situations your play may, make more sense, but as it stands no way.
  5. BGudim BGudim is offline

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    Jul 15th, 2007 (7/15/2007 5:35am) in reply to pnkranger

    Hey,

    You said both the blinds were playing "fairly maniacal", so you need to just push here. You will almost always be called here by a weaker hand and have a good chance to double.

    With AA or KK I can see your raise not being such a bad idea. But with AJ i don't like it. What if a blinds just calls. He gets to act 1st, and if you brick the flop and he pushes what do you do?

    And you are also giving hands like 5 6 a discount here. If he misses he can check fold, and if he hits he takes your stack.

    You want to be able to see all 5 cards with this type of hand, not just 3. Make them pay....
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