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late in t.hundo - hand question

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  1. kniqUe kniqUe is offline

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    Jul 31st, 2008 (7/31/2008 4:56am)

    still new to mtt's...still trying to get better...

    Full Tilt Poker Game #7449035066: Turbo Hundo (55906457), Table 5 - 250/500 Ante 50 - No Limit Hold'em - 4:08:54 ET - 2008/07/31
    Seat 1: kniqUe 1 (21,273)
    Seat 2: SpotLIGHT19 (5,160)
    Seat 3: daisyxoxo (14,104)
    Seat 4: InstinctMan (1,085)
    Seat 5: Born2Winn (7,360)
    Seat 6: DunleavyAW (8,070)
    Seat 7: mrs-nurse1 (5,128)
    Seat 8: skeptix (24,562)
    Seat 9: puntadura (14,531)
    kniqUe 1 antes 50
    SpotLIGHT19 antes 50
    daisyxoxo antes 50
    InstinctMan antes 50
    Born2Winn antes 50
    DunleavyAW antes 50
    mrs-nurse1 antes 50
    skeptix antes 50
    puntadura antes 50
    DunleavyAW posts the small blind of 250
    mrs-nurse1 posts the big blind of 500
    The button is in seat #5
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to kniqUe 1 [As Kc]
    skeptix folds
    puntadura folds
    kniqUe 1 raises to 1,275
    SpotLIGHT19 folds
    daisyxoxo has 15 seconds left to act
    daisyxoxo folds
    InstinctMan folds
    Born2Winn raises to 7,310, and is all in
    DunleavyAW folds
    mrs-nurse1 folds
    kniqUe 1 has 15 seconds left to act
    kniqUe 1 has requested TIME

    I'm supposed to call here...right?

    thanks, you guys are all sickos btw
  2. bombtrack311 bombtrack311 is offline

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    Jul 31st, 2008 (7/31/2008 4:57am) in reply to kniqUe

    instasnapcallaments
  3. Pghfan987 Pghfan987 is offline

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    Jul 31st, 2008 (7/31/2008 5:03am) in reply to bombtrack311

     
    Originally Posted by bombtrack311 View Post

    instasnapcallaments

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    Jul 31st, 2008 (7/31/2008 5:08am) in reply to Pghfan987

    i would fold for metagame sake,AK is the top of your range and they wont expect it
     
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    Jul 31st, 2008 (7/31/2008 5:09am) in reply to Pghfan987

    prob a good time for a laydown, i put him on Aces or Kings.
     
  6. kniqUe kniqUe is offline

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    Jul 31st, 2008 (7/31/2008 5:10am) in reply to kniqUe

    okay, thanks =p...

    i win = i get cl back....

    i lose = im a lil short with daisy to my left...

    what happened-

    kniqUe 1 has requested TIME
    kniqUe 1 calls 6,035
    Born2Winn shows [Th Td]
    kniqUe 1 shows [As Kc]
    *** FLOP *** [Qs 5d 7d]
    *** TURN *** [Qs 5d 7d] [3s]
    *** RIVER *** [Qs 5d 7d 3s] [3h]
    Born2Winn shows two pair, Tens and Threes
    kniqUe 1 shows a pair of Threes
    Born2Winn wins the pot (15,820) with two pair, Tens and Threes
    skeptix stands up

    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 15,820 | Rake 0
    Board: [Qs 5d 7d 3s 3h]
    Seat 1: kniqUe 1 showed [As Kc] and lost with a pair of Threes
    Seat 2: SpotLIGHT19 folded before the Flop
    Seat 3: daisyxoxo folded before the Flop
    Seat 4: InstinctMan folded before the Flop
    Seat 5: Born2Winn (button) showed [Th Td] and won (15,820) with two pair, Tens and Threes
    Seat 6: DunleavyAW (small blind) folded before the Flop
    Seat 7: mrs-nurse1 (big blind) folded before the Flop
    Seat 8: skeptix folded before the Flop
    Seat 9: puntadura folded before the Flop

    thx again;)
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  7. kniqUe kniqUe is offline

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    Jul 31st, 2008 (7/31/2008 5:12am) in reply to kniqUe

    back to studying and railing I go!
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    Jul 31st, 2008 (7/31/2008 5:13am) in reply to kniqUe

     
    Originally Posted by kniqUe View Post

    okay, thanks =p...

    i win = i get cl back....

    i lose = im a lil short with daisy to my left...

    what happened-

    kniqUe 1 has requested TIME
    kniqUe 1 calls 6,035
    Born2Winn shows [Th Td]
    kniqUe 1 shows [As Kc]
    *** FLOP *** [Qs 5d 7d]
    *** TURN *** [Qs 5d 7d] [3s]
    *** RIVER *** [Qs 5d 7d 3s] [3h]
    Born2Winn shows two pair, Tens and Threes
    kniqUe 1 shows a pair of Threes
    Born2Winn wins the pot (15,820) with two pair, Tens and Threes
    skeptix stands up

    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 15,820 | Rake 0
    Board: [Qs 5d 7d 3s 3h]
    Seat 1: kniqUe 1 showed [As Kc] and lost with a pair of Threes
    Seat 2: SpotLIGHT19 folded before the Flop
    Seat 3: daisyxoxo folded before the Flop
    Seat 4: InstinctMan folded before the Flop
    Seat 5: Born2Winn (button) showed [Th Td] and won (15,820) with two pair, Tens and Threes
    Seat 6: DunleavyAW (small blind) folded before the Flop
    Seat 7: mrs-nurse1 (big blind) folded before the Flop
    Seat 8: skeptix folded before the Flop
    Seat 9: puntadura folded before the Flop

    thx again;)

    Obvious brag post for correctly assigning range to two possible hands.
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  9. kniqUe kniqUe is offline

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    Jul 31st, 2008 (7/31/2008 5:15am) in reply to Pghfan987

    no idea what u mean :)) ehehe
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    Jul 31st, 2008 (7/31/2008 5:20am) in reply to kniqUe

    And now when everyone reads this in a few hours (when normal people start waking up), everyone will think I am an idiot. Damn you, edit button!!!
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    Jul 31st, 2008 (7/31/2008 5:31am) in reply to FishOnTilt

     
    Originally Posted by FishOnTilt View Post

    i would fold for metagame sake,AK is the top of your range and they wont expect it

    THIS!
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    Jul 31st, 2008 (7/31/2008 5:33am) in reply to kniqUe

    i would put him on akss, but then i would guess the flop was gonna have three spades, therefore its an obvious fold to avoid a bad beat using psychic flop powers
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    Jul 31st, 2008 (7/31/2008 11:50am) in reply to kniqUe

    You can never fold this in the turbo hundo
     
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    Jul 31st, 2008 (7/31/2008 11:59am) in reply to kniqUe

    Lemme just get this straight, this whole thread is about raising with AK, calling a small stack shove getting basically 2:1 and losing a race?

    kniqUe, this is supermegaultraubertotally standard.
     
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    Jul 31st, 2008 (7/31/2008 12:06pm) in reply to Neek

     
    Originally Posted by Neek View Post


    Lemme just get this straight, this whole thread is about raising with AK, calling a small stack shove getting basically 2:1 and losing a race?

    kniqUe, this is supermegaultraubertotally standard.

    Your usernames are homonyms. Weird.
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    Jul 31st, 2008 (7/31/2008 12:47pm) in reply to Neek

     
    Originally Posted by Neek View Post


    Lemme just get this straight, this whole thread is about raising with AK, calling a small stack shove getting basically 2:1 and losing a race?

    kniqUe, this is supermegaultraubertotally standard.

    Not a small stack...he has more than a third of the OP's chips. I would fold the all-in in this situation. You don't need to risk 1/3 of your stack with an unmade hand at this point in the tourney.
    Think about a reverse situaiton...UTG raises and you have AK in the cutoff. Do you call or go all in?
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    Jul 31st, 2008 (7/31/2008 12:59pm) in reply to evry

     
    Originally Posted by evry View Post

     
    Originally Posted by Neek View Post


    Lemme just get this straight, this whole thread is about raising with AK, calling a small stack shove getting basically 2:1 and losing a race?

    kniqUe, this is supermegaultraubertotally standard.

    Not a small stack...he has more than a third of the OP's chips. I would fold the all-in in this situation. You don't need to risk 1/3 of your stack with an unmade hand at this point in the tourney.
    Think about a reverse situaiton...UTG raises and you have AK in the cutoff. Do you call or go all in?

    I don't think I could disagree with you much more than I do.

    At 250/500 blinds, the shover has <15xBB in his stack, and is short. His range to shove here (unless you have some read that he's exceptionally tight) is a range that you are way ahead of. With AK you are a coinflip or have him dominated a huge portion of the time, even vs. KK you are almost getting the right price to call here. The only hand that you are in really bad shape vs. is AA.

    And yes, if this size stack raised UTG and I had AK in the cutoff I shove. Reads may change that, but all things equal, It's an easy shove.
     
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    Jul 31st, 2008 (7/31/2008 1:09pm) in reply to kniqUe

    I noticed that too, akwaaaaaaaaaaard!!
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    Jul 31st, 2008 (7/31/2008 1:14pm) in reply to kniqUe

    lol @ folding, its the turbo hundo, u gotta win about a billion flips to win it anways.
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    Jul 31st, 2008 (7/31/2008 1:20pm) in reply to swd805

     
    Originally Posted by swd805 View Post

    lol @ folding, its the turbo hundo, u gotta win about a billion flips to win it anways.

    This. To win you have to flip over and over again. Abuse fold equity over and over again. Repeat. Suck out a cpl times. Repeat.
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    Jul 31st, 2008 (7/31/2008 1:28pm) in reply to swd805

     
    Originally Posted by swd805 View Post

    lol @ folding, its the turbo hundo, u gotta win about a billion flips to win it anways.

    hm true;o..nice win btw ;))
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