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A legit pokerstars glitch?

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  1. SHIPdaCHIPS SHIPdaCHIPS is offline

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    Feb 16th, 2009 (2/16/2009 9:24pm)

    How was this guy able to limp/re-isolate over the all-in when the all-in wasn't at least a min raise? (obviously I'm not gonna flat pre if I thought a limper could re-isolate)

    pokerstars Game #25029790896: Tournament #140556573, $8.00+$0.80 Hold'em No Limit - Level XIV (200/400) - 2009/02/16 18:55:17 PT [2009/02/16 21:55:17 ET]
    Table '140556573 53' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: kyohyun (4960 in chips)
    Seat 2: cejka1 (8840 in chips)
    Seat 3: Skipper17 (6884 in chips)
    Seat 4: pc133 (13865 in chips)
    Seat 5: tatar III (693 in chips)
    Seat 6: JONAH1844 (16619 in chips)
    Seat 7: SHIPdaCHIPS (2625 in chips)
    Seat 8: I_b_j_e_00 (6140 in chips)
    Seat 9: dragonsforce (12269 in chips)
    kyohyun: posts the ante 50
    cejka1: posts the ante 50
    Skipper17: posts the ante 50
    pc133: posts the ante 50
    tatar III: posts the ante 50
    JONAH1844: posts the ante 50
    SHIPdaCHIPS: posts the ante 50
    I_b_j_e_00: posts the ante 50
    dragonsforce: posts the ante 50
    SHIPdaCHIPS: posts small blind 200
    I_b_j_e_00: posts big blind 400
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to SHIPdaCHIPS [Kd 5d]
    dragonsforce: calls 400
    kyohyun: folds
    cejka1: calls 400
    Skipper17: folds
    pc133: calls 400
    tatar III: raises 243 to 643 and is all-in
    JONAH1844: folds
    SHIPdaCHIPS: calls 443
    I_b_j_e_00: calls 243
    dragonsforce: calls 243
    cejka1: raises 8147 to 8790 and is all-in
    pc133: folds
    SHIPdaCHIPS: calls 1932 and is all-in
    I_b_j_e_00: folds
    dragonsforce: folds
    Uncalled bet (6215) returned to cejka1
    *** FLOP *** [4d 7d 8h]
    *** TURN *** [4d 7d 8h] [Kc]
    *** RIVER *** [4d 7d 8h Kc] [7c]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    SHIPdaCHIPS: shows [Kd 5d] (two pair, Kings and Sevens)
    cejka1: shows [Qs Ah] (a pair of Sevens)
    SHIPdaCHIPS collected 3864 from side pot
    tatar III: shows [Js Qh] (a pair of Sevens)
    SHIPdaCHIPS collected 4065 from main pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 7929 Main pot 4065. Side pot 3864. | Rake 0
    Board [4d 7d 8h Kc 7c]
    Seat 1: kyohyun folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: cejka1 showed [Qs Ah] and lost with a pair of Sevens
    Seat 3: Skipper17 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: pc133 folded before Flop
    Seat 5: tatar III showed [Js Qh] and lost with a pair of Sevens
    Seat 6: JONAH1844 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: SHIPdaCHIPS (small blind) showed [Kd 5d] and won (7929) with two pair, Kings and Sevens
    Seat 8: I_b_j_e_00 (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 9: dragonsforce folded before Flop
     
  2. I_Blade_U I_Blade_U is offline

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    Feb 16th, 2009 (2/16/2009 9:33pm) in reply to SHIPdaCHIPS

    nh wp with the K and the 5
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  3. SHIPdaCHIPS SHIPdaCHIPS is offline

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    Feb 16th, 2009 (2/16/2009 9:36pm) in reply to I_Blade_U

    yeah yeah i knew someone would say that. like i said i wouldn't have flatted if i thought a limper could re-isolate..

    way to answer the question.
     
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  4. bef99hwk bef99hwk is offline

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    Feb 16th, 2009 (2/16/2009 9:47pm) in reply to SHIPdaCHIPS

    pokerstars has a lot of glitches, starting with their RNG and how a hand beats a hand.
  5. Goal4Ziggy Goal4Ziggy is offline

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    Feb 16th, 2009 (2/16/2009 9:51pm) in reply to SHIPdaCHIPS

    I think we need a sticky that answers this, I see this thread a lot.

    If the raise is at least half of a legal raise for an AI the betting is reopened.

    243 > 200

    All there is to it, not glitch.
  6. skeeze666 skeeze666 is offline

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    Feb 16th, 2009 (2/16/2009 9:51pm) in reply to SHIPdaCHIPS

    dragonsforce: calls 400
    kyohyun: folds
    cejka1: calls 400
    Skipper17: folds
    pc133: calls 400
    tatar III: raises 243 to 643 and is all-in
    JONAH1844: folds
    SHIPdaCHIPS: calls 443
    I_b_j_e_00: calls 243
    dragonsforce: calls 243
    cejka1: raises 8147 to 8790 and is all-in
    pc133: folds
    SHIPdaCHIPS: calls 1932 and is all-in
    I_b_j_e_00: folds
    dragonsforce: folds

    SO...ummm.... 400 to 643 is not at least half a raise? Re-opening the raising?
  7. SHIPdaCHIPS SHIPdaCHIPS is offline

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    Feb 16th, 2009 (2/16/2009 9:52pm) in reply to Goal4Ziggy

    okay thanks... I just thought it had to be at least a min raise for a limper to re-isolate.
     
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  8. SHIPdaCHIPS SHIPdaCHIPS is offline

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    Feb 16th, 2009 (2/16/2009 9:53pm) in reply to skeeze666

     
    Originally Posted by skeeze666 View Post

    dragonsforce: calls 400
    kyohyun: folds
    cejka1: calls 400
    Skipper17: folds
    pc133: calls 400
    tatar III: raises 243 to 643 and is all-in
    JONAH1844: folds
    SHIPdaCHIPS: calls 443
    I_b_j_e_00: calls 243
    dragonsforce: calls 243
    cejka1: raises 8147 to 8790 and is all-in
    pc133: folds
    SHIPdaCHIPS: calls 1932 and is all-in
    I_b_j_e_00: folds
    dragonsforce: folds

    SO...ummm.... 400 to 643 is not at least half a raise? Re-opening the raising?

    A half raise is not a min raise.
     
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    Feb 16th, 2009 (2/16/2009 9:54pm) in reply to SHIPdaCHIPS

    That does look like a bug. Did you email stars?
  10. SHIPdaCHIPS SHIPdaCHIPS is offline

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    Feb 16th, 2009 (2/16/2009 9:55pm) in reply to dealace1

     
    Originally Posted by dealace1 View Post

    That does look like a bug. Did you email stars?

    Not yet... as other people are indicating that it isn't a bug, I figured I would look like an idiot here before looking like an idiot to support.
     
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  11. sandler1860 sandler1860 is offline

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    Feb 16th, 2009 (2/16/2009 10:03pm) in reply to Goal4Ziggy

     
    Originally Posted by Goal4Ziggy View Post


    If the raise is at least half of a legal raise for an AI the betting is reopened.

    243 > 200

    All there is to it, not glitch.

    bingo
     
  12. WeWaysAwIn WeWaysAwIn is offline

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    Feb 16th, 2009 (2/16/2009 10:05pm) in reply to SHIPdaCHIPS

    Looks like a glitch to me. Seems if his raise was to less than 800 it is not a full raise and therefore should be treated like a call.
  13. skeeze666 skeeze666 is offline

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    Feb 16th, 2009 (2/16/2009 10:07pm) in reply to SHIPdaCHIPS

    Please just end the thread OP. You're not an idiot for not knowing the rules, but if the all in raise is at least half (400 to 600 at 400/800) then it re-opens the betting.
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    Feb 16th, 2009 (2/16/2009 10:17pm) in reply to SHIPdaCHIPS

    I made a thread exactly like this one a few weeks ago. I was involved in the same situation. Although, I wasn't fortunate enough to play a hand as poor as you did here and get rewarded for it. Sigh..
     
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    Feb 16th, 2009 (2/16/2009 10:19pm) in reply to sandler1860

    Why are you even in the hand.....

    fold pre.
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    Feb 16th, 2009 (2/16/2009 10:40pm) in reply to SHIPdaCHIPS

    KING FIVE SOOOTED
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    Feb 16th, 2009 (2/16/2009 11:41pm) in reply to Xwaters

    yo but it was soooooted
     
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