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  1. Slingtownorbust Slingtownorbust is offline

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    Nov 4th, 2009 (11/4/2009 11:23am) in reply to jackaaron

    i hear that point, the same thing is up for debate here in massachusetts with all the casino money going to foxwoods
  2. The Hoke The Hoke is offline Michigan Homer

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    Nov 4th, 2009 (11/4/2009 3:32pm) in reply to IBGrindin

    i will still be loyal to the indiana casinos, 20 min drive from where im from in ohio
  3. skoal skoal is offline

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    Nov 5th, 2009 (11/5/2009 9:29am) in reply to IBGrindin

    Cavs owner Dan Gilbert spent more $ (25million)on this vote for campaign then Obama or Mcain did in Ohio in 08. He gets Cleveland and Columbus casinos - wp. Now if he can get LeBron to sign up as a headliner???
     
  4. lawyergunsmoney lawyergunsmoney is offline

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    Nov 5th, 2009 (11/5/2009 9:33am) in reply to skoal

     
    Originally Posted by skoal View Post

    Cavs owner Dan Gilbert spent more $ (25million)on this vote for campaign then Obama or Mcain did in Ohio in 08. He gets Cleveland and Columbus casinos - wp. Now if he can get LeBron to sign up as a headliner???

    I want Pete Rose to headline here in Cincy.
  5. lukaluka05 lukaluka05 is offline

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    Nov 5th, 2009 (11/5/2009 10:28am) in reply to Slingtownorbust

     
    Originally Posted by Slingtownorbust View Post

    i realize its over. its just a debate in many states all over the country and a really wonder if there if there is a truly positive impact from having casinos. great for the poker players (enjoy the rake though) its awesome to have a place to play, i just think they are opening casinos cause they know people will dump money into slots and games that favor the house. yes you will have responsible people who will enjoy these but you'll also have a lot of gambling addicts wasting away in the casinos.

    but whose really gonna benefit? there is gonna be so much wasteful spending by governments that lots of the profits i imagine aren't going to benefit the greater good of the community, sure a portion of the profit will trickle down into social and civic improvement.

    now i don't know the case in your state, but i assume the state is licencing private companines to come in and run these. thats whose going to benefit the most from this.

    if people want to gamble why shouldn't they? who are you to decide what people can and can't do with their money? the only debate is about personal freedom. your logic is flawed that because some people are addicts we shouldn't allow anyone to play. some people can't handle alcohol, and become addicted, but we don't ban alcohol for everyone because of those few. save the nanny state stuff for some authoritarian state and not here please.
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    Nov 5th, 2009 (11/5/2009 11:15am) in reply to lukaluka05

    i'm questioning it from a pure economic standpoint, and sure i'm taking certain social components into consideration as i believe they factor into any agrument when the state is claiming to purely do this for the economic benefits.

    I'm really questioning how much does the state actually benefit and what are the pros and cons. Yes, its gonna create jobs, tax revenue but i think its fair to consider the negative aspects it will have on the state as a whole.

    i have no problem with this from a capitalistic standpoint and do firmly believe in the individuals personal liberties but i doubt casinos are gonna have a great economic impact on any depressed ecomonic state. its a short term solution but it times liek this we need to focus on growng industries in states and cities that be have an impact in the global market. all casinos are doing is taking money out of the citizens hands and then recycling it with private corporations getting a major cut and then the state getting its cut. then a little of that money is used to benefit the people.
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    Nov 5th, 2009 (11/5/2009 11:35am) in reply to Slingtownorbust

    It's terrible that it passed, casino's are trash and ruin lives and families. Everyone says if they vote for it it will bring all this money to the schools and keep money in Ohio, but if the people saying that would just vote for the local school levy's and issues they would actually save money in the long run. Think about it these are the same people going and playing at the casino wasting their money where 50 cents of every dollar go towards good things in the state and the other 50 cents goes towards the casino owners. If everyone would wake up and vote for good issues, 100% of their money given would go straight to the cause and their would be no problems.
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    Nov 5th, 2009 (11/5/2009 1:11pm) in reply to DumpingKGB

    Very well put. I voted no for same reasons.
     
  9. The Hoke The Hoke is offline Michigan Homer

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    Nov 5th, 2009 (11/5/2009 2:03pm) in reply to DumpingKGB

     
    Originally Posted by DumpingKGB View Post

    It's terrible that it passed, casino's are trash and ruin lives and families. Everyone says if they vote for it it will bring all this money to the schools and keep money in Ohio, but if the people saying that would just vote for the local school levy's and issues they would actually save money in the long run. Think about it these are the same people going and playing at the casino wasting their money where 50 cents of every dollar go towards good things in the state and the other 50 cents goes towards the casino owners. If everyone would wake up and vote for good issues, 100% of their money given would go straight to the cause and their would be no problems.

    i'd like to see some proof on casino's are trash and ruin lives and families...unless your talking from your own personal experience..

    i have about 14k profit from the Argosy (now Hollywood) Casino in Indiana, i keep detailed win and losses (tax puropses) so whos giving money to who?
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