Originally Posted by Doc Sands

I think its despicable that guys enter this event and I want to know who played. After playing live with Deeb a few times, I was very surprised to learn that he lacked the maturity and class to sit this one out. Who else played?

You for real?
I would be suprised if any real woman (oh sorry lady) wants a womans only tourne.
If they want a womens champ, they could all enter one of the open $1500 NLHE events, the highest finisher is champ.
Going off your logic, why not men only comps.

DOC SANDS chill the fuc out.. its just a joke.. this clown takes himself to seriously imo.. whos gives a fuc if hes playin the ladies events, its funny as hell he dressed up as a woman

Two things:

1. Wein is spot on, as usual. If there's a ladies event then there should be a senior citizen's event and a short people event, among others.

2. Wanna know when its time to find yourself a slumpbuster? When Deeb's funbags start to look "kinda nice".

There is a senior's event? Well I'll be damned. How did the WSOP folks decide which groups would get their own special events? Where's the redhead's event, the US citizen only event, or the fat people's event?

The point is women and seniors have all the same tools at their disposal to learn and play the game. They should not receive special treatment, especially if they want to be seen as equals.

I'll never play in a women's event and never really considered it.

That said, I doubt i care one way or the other. Everyone attention whore's it up in their own way.

Pretty dumb/stupid/lame. I am amazed that 100% of the online community isn't sucking his e-penis tho.

Lifetime ban plz.

Men who entered the 2010 ladies event at the World Series of Poker could face a possible suspension or ban from future WSOP events, WSOP Communications Director Seth Palansky told Card Player today. More than a half-dozen men are confirmed to be playing in the annual ladies tournament, and some estimates on the floor are that the number of men who entered the event is in the double digits.
In a tongue-in-cheek comment, Palansky called the development �great news,� before saying there will be consequences for any male who entered the event.
�We will have our repercussions against any man that entered the ladies tournament,� said Palansky. �There are consequences for actions, and they�ll pay the price.�
Palansky said tournament organizers couldn�t legally prevent any men from entering the event. They have discouraged men from doing so in the past, and discouraged entries again this year. Men have participated in ladies events at the World Series in past years, but never to this magnitude.
�We can�t prevent anyone from entering a ladies tournament. If they�re scumbags, they�re scumbags,� said Palansky. �The good news is at the World Series of Poker, we have the right to refuse service to anyone at any time at any point that we deem, as operators of the event.�
When asked if there could be anywhere from a year ban to a lifetime ban for the male entrants, Palansky simply responded: �Stay tuned.�
An official entrant list, with the number of men who entered the event, is not yet available.
David Sesso, primarily an online player who also won a WSOP Circuit event in Indiana last year, is one of the men playing in today�s event. He entered with a group of his friends, but claimed to be the one who came up with the idea.
When asked why he entered a ladies event, Sesso said, �When a girl wins a regular event, she gets all this attention. When a guy wins an event, it�s still pretty cool, but you don�t get nearly this much attention.�
Sesso says he was discouraged a few times from registering for the event, but didn�t say if any specific punishments were discussed.
�The lady at the cage kept letting me know that it was a ladies event, but I just stuck with it and got in,� said Sesso. �I was pretty much the first one (out of my group) to start talking about (entering the event). Some of them went really far with it and dressed up like girls.�
When the first male entry busted from the field, the Pavilion reportedly erupted in cheers.
Kathy Liebert, widely considered one of the best female poker players with nearly $5.7 million in tournament winnings, said she understands the reasoning behind the guys� decision, but still thinks they should�ve sat this one out.
�It�s a ladies-only event, so the guys should probably just stay away,� said Liebert, who said the mens� decision to enter the event reflects a little bit on their character. �Why play it? What are you trying to do? It seems like they�re just doing it for themselves.�

Vanessa Selbst

she looks like a dude tho

What I don't understand is, if you cannot prevent men from playing, yet you have "the right to refuse service to anyone at any time at any point that we deem, as operators of the event", why wouldn't you just insta refuse service from men who tried to sign up for the event? Those two statements seem to contradict each other.

Playing in a ladies (or seniors) event isn't something I would do, but I don't think it's the height of scumbaggery either. It's just.....immature. And kind of mean spirited. And I'm not talking about the guys who dress up in drag and goof around with people like Deeb is doing this year and some (all?) of the Tiltboys did like a decade ago, I'm talking about the dudes who go and put on their Serious Poker Face.

 

Originally Posted by GambleAB

What I don't understand is, if you cannot prevent men from playing, yet you have "the right to refuse service to anyone at any time at any point that we deem, as operators of the event", why wouldn't you just insta refuse service from men who tried to sign up for the event? Those two statements seem to contradict each other.

Playing in a ladies (or seniors) event isn't something I would do, but I don't think it's the height of scumbaggery either. It's just.....immature. And kind of mean spirited. And I'm not talking about the guys who dress up in drag and goof around with people like Deeb is doing this year and some (all?) of the Tiltboys did like a decade ago, I'm talking about the dudes who go and put on their Serious Poker Face.

I think the problem is that you can't refuse service on the basis of gender - you can on the other hand (probably) refuse service arbitrarily. It's probably a pretty fine line and I'd be surprised if anything came of it.

Now while I agree its a dick move to play the event, If the WSOP allows you to register, I dont see how they can throw the ban hammer at you. THEY allowed men in. If there wasnt a rule banning them from playing, then its technically allowed. Before they start banning players for entering, maybe they should actually not take their entry fee, rake, etc...

 

Originally Posted by dpottz

really? i think exactly the opposite. if you're just going to go play for the value, i think there's more respect in that than dressing up in drag/using a tampon as a card protector. doubt i care either way, but isn't the drag/tampon thing more immature?

The way I see it, the guys who dress up in drag and goof around are poking fun at themselves. The guys who take it seriously are kind of disrespecting the spirit of the tournament.
I mean, everyone who plays poker at least semi-seriously knows that you can sign up for a ladies (or seniors) tournament. Everyone. But nobody does it because it's not the right thing to do. Nobody playing that tournament is any smarter then the people who aren't playing it. They didn't figure something out that nobody has figured out before. They are just acting uncouth.

 

Originally Posted by GambleAB

What I don't understand is, if you cannot prevent men from playing, yet you have "the right to refuse service to anyone at any time at any point that we deem, as operators of the event", why wouldn't you just insta refuse service from men who tried to sign up for the event? Those two statements seem to contradict each other.

Playing in a ladies (or seniors) event isn't something I would do, but I don't think it's the height of scumbaggery either. It's just.....immature. And kind of mean spirited. And I'm not talking about the guys who dress up in drag and goof around with people like Deeb is doing this year and some (all?) of the Tiltboys did like a decade ago, I'm talking about the dudes who go and put on their Serious Poker Face.

agree with this and the only thing that i really care about here is how unprofessionally and unfairly the wsop is handling this issue. it sounds like they didnt announce there would be a penalty for men entering the event (just some verbal discouragement from staff which is unprofessional as well imo) and are now going to issue some random discretionary penalty. the men who are legally entering this event should at least have some determinable penalty before they register. i wouldnt want some corporation to be able to penalize me at their discretion after the fact. not to mention the comments from that polansky guy in the cardplayer article seem to indicate he has a pretty strong personal opinion on the subject.

http://www.rawvegas.tv/watch/daniel-...dc82385a6fa637
solution...

 

Originally Posted by jpapola

agree with this and the only thing that i really care about here is how unprofessionally and unfairly the wsop is handling this issue. it sounds like they didnt announce there would be a penalty for men entering the event (just some verbal discouragement from staff which is unprofessional as well imo) and are now going to issue some random discretionary penalty. the men who are legally entering this event should at least have some determinable penalty before they register. i wouldnt want some corporation to be able to penalize me at their discretion after the fact. not to mention the comments from that polansky guy in the cardplayer article seem to indicate he has a pretty strong personal opinion on the subject.

This. If spmething is not against rules, then a ban is absurd and litigation would follow. Pointless posturing FTW.