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  1. Passiveplay Passiveplay is offline

    Erlanger, KY
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    Jul 22nd, 2010 (7/22/2010 4:31pm)

    I don't play a lot of live MTTs but this situation happened and I wasn't sure how to handle it. It was day 2 of the ME and we are not close to the money yet. The following hand happens:

    UTG raises gets a few callers, the BB raises. Action folds around to one of the better players at the table. He's a good thinking player and pretty aggressive so he's probably the one player at the table making my life difficult. Anyway he shoves and action it folded back the the BB, who immediately nods his head slightly while mouthing the word "yeah." He also grabbed a stack of 5k chips and extended his arm out past his cards then pulled them back, without letting go of them, and asked how much he had. He then tanked for a minute or two and folded.

    I was fairly convinced that it was a call, a few people at the table saw what happened, but no one says a word. I was debating to myself if i should or shouldn't say something. The guy who went all in didn't look really comfortable and i assumed that it would be a flip if he was called and was hoping for a fold.

    In the end I decided that I wasn't in the hand and there was no need for me to speak up, although I have heard of players not in the hand calling the floor. But I would feel like crap if I called the floor and it was a call and the guy lost the flip. But it's probably in my best interest to have him lose to a lesser player.

    Do you think it's a call? Would you say anything?

    P.S. Later on that day I bluffed a hand and my opponent tanked for minutes and I was trying to be still, but after 3-4 minutes I could tell I was starting to lose composure, but I didn't want to call the clock. Some else at the table not in the hand called the clock. I was happy he did and no one seemed to think he was out of line.
     
  2. cchan cchan is offline

    Urbana, IL
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    Jul 22nd, 2010 (7/22/2010 4:39pm) in reply to Passiveplay

    most rooms, its forward motion is a call.

    some will argue that he never let go of the chips and yada yada.
  3. R_U_Nuts R_U_Nuts is offline

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    Jul 22nd, 2010 (7/22/2010 4:47pm) in reply to cchan

    This would never happen if everyone just had a betting line. Chips go across that line and it's a bet/call.
  4. Polar_Bears Polar_Bears is offline

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    Jul 22nd, 2010 (7/22/2010 5:36pm) in reply to Passiveplay

     
    Originally Posted by Passiveplay View Post

    Do you think it's a call? Would you say anything?

    Yes it was a call. No you weren't in the hand so you shouldn't say anything. I think one of the hardest things I see here in Vegas is people getting caught up in "other" peoples hands. I actually wish there was a rule against other people doing just this kind of thing. More often than not, from what I see, is most of the problems created in the poker room are from people that should have been just sitting there keeping their mouth shut. So many times I have watched a floor man get called over because someone "not" in the hand got involved, only to see the original players not need a ruling, and the floor-man just to walk away again. Total waste of time and energy!
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