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LMTT (low) - Easy fold or call ??????

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  1. Chazmental Chazmental is offline Thief

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    Nov 6th, 2009 (11/6/2009 10:06pm)

    Okay so these 2 have not got out of line. I should have repopped Pre but once I didn't and the BB pushed and the button did too I got caught like a deer in the headlights with what to do. What say you?

    pokerstars Game #35021199755: Tournament #209011055, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level X (100/200) - 2009/11/06 20:01:26 PT [2009/11/06 23:01:26 ET]
    Table '209011055 113' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
    Seat 1: koolio6 (2410 in chips)
    Seat 2: ctevez97 (4795 in chips)
    Seat 3: jcasey (1835 in chips)
    Seat 4: tcboo888 (3320 in chips)
    Seat 5: Lorr1968 (16500 in chips)
    Seat 6: Osijek11 (5935 in chips)
    Seat 7: Antoshka (4330 in chips)
    Seat 8: Chazmental (8025 in chips)
    Seat 9: acehiuwin (7750 in chips)
    koolio6: posts the ante 25
    ctevez97: posts the ante 25
    jcasey: posts the ante 25
    tcboo888: posts the ante 25
    Lorr1968: posts the ante 25
    Osijek11: posts the ante 25
    Antoshka: posts the ante 25
    Chazmental: posts the ante 25
    acehiuwin: posts the ante 25
    Chazmental: posts small blind 100
    acehiuwin: posts big blind 200
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Chazmental [Qc Qd]
    koolio6: folds
    ctevez97: folds
    jcasey: folds
    tcboo888: folds
    Lorr1968: folds
    Osijek11: folds
    Antoshka: raises 280 to 480
    Chazmental: calls 380
    acehiuwin: raises 7245 to 7725 and is all-in
    Antoshka: calls 3825 and is all-in
    Chazmental: <- actually time banked.
  2. shanetrain22 shanetrain22 is offline

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    Nov 6th, 2009 (11/6/2009 10:11pm) in reply to Chazmental

    3-bet pre (not always, but usually). As played, I'm neverrrrr folding.
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  3. bashalane bashalane is offline

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    Nov 6th, 2009 (11/6/2009 10:12pm) in reply to Chazmental

    not folding... not at these stakers
  4. anignosaj anignosaj is offline

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    Nov 6th, 2009 (11/6/2009 10:12pm) in reply to Chazmental

    im always shoving.
  5. Luckless Luckless is offline

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    Nov 6th, 2009 (11/6/2009 10:14pm) in reply to anignosaj

    fold is wrong
  6. Chazmental Chazmental is offline Thief

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    Nov 6th, 2009 (11/6/2009 10:20pm) in reply to Luckless

    I typed in 880 but hit the call button. Once that happened and the two go all I started to seriously doubt my hand at this point.
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  7. elendil elendil is offline

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    Nov 6th, 2009 (11/6/2009 10:21pm) in reply to Luckless

    I'm calling. And stacking shorty hitting a set with his 99's.
  8. shanetrain22 shanetrain22 is offline

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    Nov 6th, 2009 (11/6/2009 10:22pm) in reply to Chazmental

     
    Originally Posted by Chazmental View Post

    I typed in 880 but hit the call button. Once that happened and the two go all I started to seriously doubt my hand at this point.

    Effective stacks are only ~20bb, so in a button vs sb vs bb situation, QQ is basically impossible to fold... even vs 2 nits. There's nothing you can do but get it in, man.
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  9. The Baby Bull The Baby Bull is offline

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    Nov 6th, 2009 (11/6/2009 10:35pm) in reply to shanetrain22

    Given the stakes and context, I call.
     
  10. allin4flush allin4flush is offline

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    Nov 6th, 2009 (11/6/2009 11:47pm) in reply to Chazmental

    This is a tough spot, with an M of 20... but considering the situation with the B/SB/BB and short stacks and the fact that you're looking at giving yourself a decent stack as the antes get going, I think I'd find a call. That misclick might prove to be a happy accident when they turn over 88 and AQ
  11. Sp1ctacular3 Sp1ctacular3 is offline

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    Nov 7th, 2009 (11/7/2009 12:21am) in reply to Chazmental

    You're sooooooo underrepped please call and laugh about a standard AA vs KK vs QQ spot.
  12. Chazmental Chazmental is offline Thief

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    Nov 7th, 2009 (11/7/2009 1:46am) in reply to Sp1ctacular3

    Yup. I supppppppppppper nitted this hand up so badly.

    Uncalled bet (3420) returned to acehiuwin
    *** FLOP *** [Th Jd 2d]
    *** TURN *** [Th Jd 2d] [7s]
    *** RIVER *** [Th Jd 2d 7s] [7c]
    Chazmental said, "damn"
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    acehiuwin: shows [9h 9d] (two pair, Nines and Sevens)
    Antoshka: shows [Qs Ks] (a pair of Sevens)
    acehiuwin collected 9315 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 9315 | Rake 0
    Board [Th Jd 2d 7s 7c]
    Seat 1: koolio6 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: ctevez97 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: jcasey folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: tcboo888 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: Lorr1968 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: Osijek11 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: Antoshka (button) showed [Qs Ks] and lost with a pair of Sevens
    Seat 8: Chazmental (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 9: acehiuwin (big blind) showed [9h 9d] and won (9315) with two pair, Nines and Sevens
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  13. Sp1ctacular3 Sp1ctacular3 is offline

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    Nov 7th, 2009 (11/7/2009 11:03am) in reply to Chazmental

    :(

    What ranges do you assign that makes you fold?

    With opener stack size he probably is opening somewhat tighter than usual but calling any shove. So 77+, KQs+, ATo+

    Squeezer I think is wider here, considering you haven't displayed a real threat of having a hand. So 55+, KJs+, ATo+ Sometimes even some goofy hands.

    Break the mouse I'm calling so fast
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