She continues to amaze me....

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I think she starts "contributing" on the second page.

can we get a quote i dont feel like reading all that mish mash lol

i think albeit she is kinda bitchy sometimes she can actually play poker SOMETIMES...i mean i think her A game is decent, but rarely can play it. For instance she has won 2-3 poker after darks, and being winner take all against usually solid fields thats pretty good...IMO...but most of the time she sucks

Never heard of him.

Ive seen some pretty bad players on PAD so calling them solid is wrong, and even if they were it doesnt take much to win a single table tourney. I dont care what the take is.

If by "mish mash", you mean some really good analysis of different aspects of an interesting hand from some of the best tournament players in the world...then by all means, skip it.

i mean hellmuth does stuff that is wrong mathematically, yet he is a good player.

so yeah this hand is definitely wrong but if she plays outstanding post flop poker its possible she is a winning player. (im not saying she is because i never played with her - but just giving the counter argument)

anyways, I'm not really defending her but lots of live players dont understand the math of these situations like the online pros do. say what you, will but if you play live against a standard opponent they won't even understand the meaning of the math dictated a call or whatever. its not to say they cant be decent players, but alot of them have not looked at poker that way.

thing is until you multitable like 10 tourneys at a time and want/need to win you don't really start looking into this stuff.

but yeah its possible you could be an excellent cash game player and not understand the math of it if you never play short stack poker.

that is all.

<SPAN class=Apple-style-span>"Nice work, Todd.<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>

You did a much better job of explaining what I was thinking than I ever could. On a funny note: Getting in the mind of a woman and understanding her is dangerous territory. Just a warning: LOOK UP! Because I think you might get hit by a big beer can.<SPAN class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN>

Clonie"

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Originally Posted by simplepoker

 

Originally Posted by seanwal23

can we get a quote i dont feel like reading all that mish mash lol

same here i aint reading all that shyt

lol @ mish mash. definitely the most hlepful forum you possibly read. god forbid you get some free information from actually reading! omg the horror!

 

Originally Posted by hu$$$ler

 

Originally Posted by andressoprano

 

Originally Posted by john biznatch

i mean hellmuth does stuff that is wrong mathematically, yet he is a good player.

I stopped reading right here.

yeah cos you too cool for school?

either you want to play poker or you want be a harvard mathematician cos the two are entirely different.....

but heaven help anyone who tries explain this to an online degen who is 49 tabling

Some of the new members of this forum seem to have problems dealing with their own anger.

1: FYI I dont usually play more than 6 tables, although that is enough for me to make more in one year than you'll ever make flipping burguers.

2: I stop reading in the part that says : He is a good player. From a non-results-oriented stand point, Phil Helmutt is not good at poker.

Funny thing, yesterday a friend of mine and I were talking about the 11 bracelets holder, and the fact that I'd have really hard times sitting at his table. I just can't stand him, his antics, his retarded berating, and pretty much anything related to him.

Edit: Here's an example:
http://www.pocketfives.com/poker-for...llmuth-3663779

I always thought Clonie was bad, Bbut WOW at every response she made in that thread. No wonder Full tilt gave her the boot. Turning decent hands like 88 into absolute bluffs of rr/folding is one of the worst things you can do as a tourney player and I just assumed any decent player realized that.

Note to self....4 bet Clonie if she ever reraises from the blinds to a late position open, lol.

Yeah I'm sure she shows up with a hand but its just comical she can 3 bet a hand like 88 from the blinds acing a button raise basically to "find out where she is at" lol - Oh Clonie...

Definitely some good stuf in that thread, everyone ranting about reading through the thread is pretty comical since there are some of the brightest poker minds out thre commenting on a pretty interesting situation. So she basically needs an absolute monster to call a 4 bet when she 3 bets out of the blinds....not very balanced.

Please don't tell me I was thinking like Hellmuth ever again;)

I dont think she knows how to balance her range, anyone can rr/call with monsters but only the most elite can rr/fold with hands like 88 and 25 effective bbs facing a button raise!

 

Originally Posted by EddieO

Definitely some good stuf in that thread, everyone ranting about reading through the thread is pretty comical since there are some of the brightest poker minds out thre commenting on a pretty interesting situation.

+1 +2 +3 Great read. Pay attention to the other people... people.

 

Originally Posted by EddieO

I dont think she knows how to balance her range, anyone can rr/call with monsters but only the most elite can rr/fold with hands like 88 and 25 effective bbs facing a button raise!

sarcasm right?

Andressoprano,

Conrats on your score a few weeks back but I do not understand how you can possibly state Phil Hellmuth is not good at poker. He may do some very weird things as far as playing hands but he is easily one of the best people reader's in the game and a great NL hold em tounrament player..IMO.

Again...congrats on score.

dcookie