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LOL @ this hand. Wow.

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  1. Roothlus Roothlus is offline

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    May 29th, 2007 (5/29/2007 8:49pm)

    This was just a weird hand.

    pokerstars Game #10173385235: Tournament #51184145, $1000+$50 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2007/05/29 - 20:43:35 (ET)
    Table '51184145 11' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: unluckybs (4750 in chips)
    Seat 2: Johnster (330 in chips)
    Seat 3: bbbbb33 (2002 in chips)
    Seat 4: tjbentham (2765 in chips)
    Seat 5: Roothlus (4855 in chips)
    Seat 6: Cre8ive (4320 in chips)
    Seat 7: SukoutonmeAA (4573 in chips)
    Seat 8: roo_400 (5920 in chips)
    Seat 9: puffinmypurp (2475 in chips)
    SukoutonmeAA: posts small blind 25
    roo_400: posts big blind 50
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Roothlus [9d 8d]
    puffinmypurp: calls 50
    unluckybs: calls 50
    Johnster: folds
    bbbbb33: folds
    tjbentham: folds
    Roothlus: calls 50
    Cre8ive: folds
    SukoutonmeAA: calls 25
    roo_400: checks
    *** FLOP *** [8h 8c Tc]
    SukoutonmeAA: checks
    roo_400: checks
    puffinmypurp: checks
    unluckybs: bets 50
    Roothlus: calls 50
    SukoutonmeAA: calls 50
    roo_400: folds
    puffinmypurp: folds
    *** TURN *** [8h 8c Tc] [9c]
    SukoutonmeAA: checks
    unluckybs: checks
    Roothlus: checks
    *** RIVER *** [8h 8c Tc 9c] [7c]
    SukoutonmeAA: checks
    unluckybs: checks
    Roothlus: bets 275
    SukoutonmeAA: raises 4198 to 4473 and is all-in
    unluckybs: folds
    Roothlus: folds
    Roothlus said, "folding a boat"
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  2. WiCane WiCane is offline

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    May 29th, 2007 (5/29/2007 8:57pm) in reply to Roothlus

    Odd hand. Just curious why didnt you bet the turn?
     
  3. pariah pariah is offline

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    May 29th, 2007 (5/29/2007 8:59pm) in reply to WiCane

    I'd actually raise the flop and check the turn. Is that suboptimal?
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    May 29th, 2007 (5/29/2007 9:00pm) in reply to WiCane

    Insane hand indeed.
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    May 29th, 2007 (5/29/2007 9:00pm) in reply to Roothlus

    ugh, i think this is really gross

    raise flop? bet turn?????????????????????????????????????? get some chips in the pot son
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  6. Roothlus Roothlus is offline

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    May 29th, 2007 (5/29/2007 9:01pm) in reply to pariah

    the minbet just screws up my action i think. so i was like screw it, we'll peel one card or maybe get someone to raise the minbet and call. then the turn i just felt like no one had anything on a very scary board.
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  7. uloseha1 uloseha1 is offline

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    May 29th, 2007 (5/29/2007 9:09pm) in reply to Roothlus

    only losing to tt t8 and 99 he could be stupidly pushing the nut flush or something dumb even 77 might push there. very tight fold ill be trying to bluff you in future. he limped sb for 25 99?tt?. ac or t8 i think
     
  8. Claw1980 Claw1980 is offline

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    May 29th, 2007 (5/29/2007 9:12pm) in reply to uloseha1

    err theres a 4 card str8 flush out there.

    i agree with those above, raise flop to 2-300.. bet turn.
     
  9. lucaduc lucaduc is offline

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    May 29th, 2007 (5/29/2007 9:14pm) in reply to uloseha1

    how bout the old straight flusher
     
  10. ShakyGoodnss ShakyGoodnss is offline

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    May 29th, 2007 (5/29/2007 9:17pm) in reply to uloseha1

    LOL @ "tight fold ill be trying to bluff you..."

    4 to a straight flush on the board. So the cards you mentioned plus JX, or X6.

    This was a $1000+ tournament...its a no brainer. FOLD. I would say 99.99999999% of the time you call and see the Nut straight flush. No reason to fall in love with your hand on that board.
  11. murf99 murf99 is offline

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    May 29th, 2007 (5/29/2007 10:36pm) in reply to Roothlus

    nice laydown.
  12. Sherbert Sherbert is offline

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    May 29th, 2007 (5/29/2007 10:38pm) in reply to murf99

    how is it a nice laydown?

    its a freggin laydown a 2 year old makes. Roothlus buddy why are you soooo timid. Even your nl cash threads are like this. PUT MONEY IN THE POT for pete's sake

    what better time to put money in the pot then on the turn when theres several hands willing to draw here... oie vae.
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    May 29th, 2007 (5/29/2007 10:39pm) in reply to Roothlus

    why bet the river?
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    May 29th, 2007 (5/29/2007 10:42pm) in reply to BigBadDevil

    Um because he's not Jennifer Tilly
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    May 29th, 2007 (5/29/2007 10:47pm) in reply to pariah

    the only hand i see calling a value bet there that roothlus beats is Ac. after flop and turn action a better line would be to check down or check/call a bet by the opponent.
  16. Roothlus Roothlus is offline

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    May 29th, 2007 (5/29/2007 11:01pm) in reply to Sherbert

    LOL. these are only 2 hands out of a gazillion. Just happened the way I played this one was really slow. You think I play like this all the time?
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    May 29th, 2007 (5/29/2007 11:13pm) in reply to BigBadDevil

    Lol, you guys are way off, I've been playing with the dude who shoved the river and ummmmm snap call very quickly.
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    May 29th, 2007 (5/29/2007 11:25pm) in reply to Roothlus

    tough spot there!!
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    May 29th, 2007 (5/29/2007 11:42pm) in reply to gosalukis83

    uhm unless im missing some 15th level thinking or something here... I think his huge overbet just screams Ace high flush. If he had the str8 flush wouldnt a value bet be the way to go? I mean the idea here is to get paid off on your good hands not just take down small pots this early in the tourney. A 3/4 pot raise or pot raise here or even min raise tells me he has the str8 flush. Pushing with the nuts is just stupid...
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    May 29th, 2007 (5/29/2007 11:58pm) in reply to Roothlus

    " LOL. these are only 2 hands out of a gazillion. Just happened the way I played this one was really slow. You think I play like this all the time?"

    I fail to see how balancing your play applies to this kind of situation, where getting money in before the river is like, way standard
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    May 30th, 2007 (5/30/2007 12:06am) in reply to Kajun

    i agree w/ kajun. If he had super nuts why would he bet so much? Im thinking super nuts value raises. Would be tough call though. If you call and he does have it you would feel dumb.

    always another hand.
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    May 30th, 2007 (5/30/2007 1:06am) in reply to Kajun

    i dont think anyone in their right mind would make some sort of bet like this with the ace high flush on this board. its paired and its the 3rd nut flush. even seeing how the guy plays it doesn't matter, he's not doing this with the ace high flush.
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    May 30th, 2007 (5/30/2007 1:13am) in reply to nezbit

    That is what makes the bet so sick, he figures rooth is extremely strong and straight shoving a pot at that stage for a bluff or flush is retarded, no value. Shoving the nuts on a board with a million things can trigger people in so many ways they dont know what to think. I think its a perfect fold.
     
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    May 30th, 2007 (5/30/2007 1:17am) in reply to Roothlus

    good fold rooth...no reason to take the gamble that early in tourny....
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    May 30th, 2007 (5/30/2007 1:26am) in reply to Roothlus

    I'll be honest I think its a bad fold. I would put him on the A high flush, you didnt play the hand like you had a full house. I dont think you gave SukoutonmeAA any reason to put you on a boat. If I were him I would think a A high flush was good.

    With all the limping and check calling of min bets and seeing free a river, then going check-check 2/3 pot bet. I even think he could be bluffing you with nothing.

    maybe thats what makes me a donk, but I woulda called.
  26. Mr_BigQueso Mr_BigQueso is offline

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    May 30th, 2007 (5/30/2007 2:01am) in reply to Roothlus

    i always make sure i'm not the idiot thats the topic of the HH when i look at these threads. phew
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  27. MikeCaroJr MikeCaroJr is offline

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    May 30th, 2007 (5/30/2007 2:06am) in reply to TMLMS13

    Its a good fold simply because of the fact that the raiser is inducing people like you to call with A high flush, any type of boat, or lower end straight flush.
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    May 30th, 2007 (5/30/2007 2:09am) in reply to Roothlus

    everytime i see an overbet like this the logic behind it is this.

    "i have the nuts, and theres some very strong second nuts, no one can get away from it, so the max value is pushing"

    its like this example in a cash game.

    board comes AKQJ with 2 hearts. You bet out on turn and guy min raises you. He has the TEN you have the TEN + FD, so what do you do? Well you get it all in before he has a reason to fold. So you overbet the pot all-in and freeroll his ass big time. You do this because you know he wont fold so the overbet becomes irrelevant in the thinking process.

    imo an all-in overbet is one of the sf's. Someone said that because people were check calling its unlikely they would have that...

    wtf do you think they are check calling with? Gut draws and open enders seems likely to me. The same straight draws that just made SF's...

    oie vae, sometimes i get worried i wont be able to make a living off poker for the next X years but then just when i start to feel down a nice ole thread with a bunch of meatheads comes along and picks my day right up.

    gnight all, you make me happy.

    *cliff notes*

    EASY FOLD
    GET MONEY IN THE POT
    STOP GIVING ADVICE IF YOUR A RETARD
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    May 30th, 2007 (5/30/2007 2:10am) in reply to Roothlus

    gross all the way around... i dont like it
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  30. Aesh Aesh is offline

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    May 30th, 2007 (5/30/2007 2:16am) in reply to Roothlus

    I don't have much to add that hasn't already been said (plus I'm nowhere near as good as you guys) but, SukoutonmeAA finished the tournament in 8th place. Not too bad.

    That's it.
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