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  1. Everyone knows what happened last year when I got my ass banned from Stars for a week for going all in blind.... well, I still like to gamble lol and did some flipping again earlier in the rebuy.

    Hi Annette,

    Based on a routine review of your account which indicated unusual play
    patterns, we have made a more in depth review of your account and
    play. At this point we must ask that you provide us with some
    information that will help us to resolve this issue.

    First, please review the hands and chat transcripts provided below and
    explain your strategy/thinking during the play of the hands.

    Next, please explain in detail your relationship, if any, to the
    player "charder30"

    Your account privileges have been suspended pending the outcome of our
    review. Please respond fully and completely within 48 hours. Your
    cooperation will help to bring the matter to a close promptly.

    Kind Regards,

    Troy
    pokerstars Support Team

    PokerStars Game #18939178074: Tournament #95822710, $100+$9 Hold'em No
    Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2008/07/19 - 14:25:42 (ET)
    Table '95822710 12' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
    Seat 1: Annette_15 (2695 in chips)
    Seat 2: Keesbussum (5816 in chips)
    Seat 3: mikaeldiwa (2445 in chips)
    Seat 4: charder30 (2880 in chips)
    Seat 5: henri72 (3752 in chips)
    Seat 6: SOXFAN83 (5880 in chips)
    Seat 7: VerySexual (14027 in chips)
    Seat 8: The Chalk (3005 in chips)
    Seat 9: Volmers (3000 in chips)
    SOXFAN83: posts small blind 15
    VerySexual: posts big blind 30
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Annette_15 [4s 8d]
    Annette_15 said, "weeeeeeeeeeee"
    The Chalk: folds
    VerySexual said, "ya, i had same question"
    2402Dennis [observer] said, "weeeeeeeeee"
    Volmers: folds
    Annette_15: raises 2665 to 2695 and is all-in
    Keesbussum: folds
    mikaeldiwa: folds
    charder30: calls 2695
    henri72: folds
    SOXFAN83: folds
    VerySexual: folds
    charder30 said, "i swear pokerstars better not ban me"
    *** FLOP *** [Qs Js As]
    *** TURN *** [Qs Js As] [9c]
    *** RIVER *** [Qs Js As 9c] [4h]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Annette_15: shows [4s 8d] (a pair of Fours)
    charder30: shows [7h Ts] (high card Ace)
    Annette_15 collected 5435 from pot
    charder30 said, "so sick"
    charder30 said, "\"
    Annette_15 said, "ooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhh"
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 5435 | Rake 0
    Board [Qs Js As 9c 4h]
    Seat 1: Annette_15 showed [4s 8d] and won (5435) with a pair of Fours
    Seat 2: Keesbussum folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: mikaeldiwa folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: charder30 showed [7h Ts] and lost with high card Ace
    Seat 5: henri72 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: SOXFAN83 (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 7: VerySexual (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 8: The Chalk folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: Volmers folded before Flop (didn't bet)

    Annette_15 flip charder? 1 7/19/2008 2:25:18 PM
    charder30 ok 4 7/19/2008 2:25:36 PM
    Annette_15 weeeeeeeeeeee 1 7/19/2008 2:25:44 PM
    VerySexual ya, i had same question 7 7/19/2008
    2:25:48 PM
    2402Dennis weeeeeeeeee Observer 7/19/2008 2:25:48 PM
    charder30 i swear pokerstars better not ban me 4 7/19/2008
    2:26:07 PM
    charder30 so sick 4 7/19/2008 2:26:20 PM
    charder30 \ 4 7/19/2008 2:26:21 PM
    Annette_15 ooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhh 1 7/19/2008
    2:26:23 PM
    2402Dennis lol Observer 7/19/2008 2:26:25 PM
    Annette_15 lol ship 1 7/19/2008 2:26:30 PM
    Annette_15 sowwy 1 7/19/2008 2:26:44 PM
    Annette_15 still love me? 1 7/19/2008 2:26:47 PM
    2402Dennis great move annette^^ Observer 7/19/2008
    2:26:51 PM
    charder30 pokerstars better not ban me for a week 4
    7/19/2008 2:27:25 PM
    Annette_15 if anyone it'll be me 1 7/19/2008 2:27:36 PM
    Annette_15 but whatever, i dont play anymre anyway lol 1
    7/19/2008 2:27:43 PM

    OKOK I understand its 'illegal' even tho we're not colluding because everyone knew about it and could make their decisions accordingly.. Do I deserve it if they ban me again for being ignorant or is this as retarded as I think it is...?
  2. LOL @ "routine review"
     
  3. THIS WILL REALLY SHAKE UP THE POKER WORLD!!!
  4. I'm ready to riot, this is bs.
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  5. charder30 said, "i swear pokerstars better not ban me"

    lol....i think its dumb, but if this is strike 2, gonna have to be much more careful in the future...
     
  6. Yeah, allin with 4-8 vs 7-10 is an obvious chip dump, lol.

    This must be the most retarded thing I've ever seen in 5 years of online play. I bet the dork from stars Support wanted to see his name in a public forum, so he thought:

    I'm gonna fuck up with annette, and if she makes this public, I'll be famous, wooooowowoowoowow.

    So fucking stupid IMO.
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  7. Seems ridiculous that you would get a ban for that. Im a microdonk though, what do I know.
  8. ummm seriously? obv it's stupid that they restrict it, but it's plain as day you're doing the same thing that got you banned last time...everyone knowing about it is irrelevant. Do you deserve it on basis of the action, obv no, but based on their rules, I'm surprised they're even asking for an explanation rather than auto-suspending you.....

    charder30 prolly gonna get a week too....
     
  9. Banning one of their most notable players for an obv gamble during early stages of a $100r??

    stars.. Please, Put the gun down.. You're life is worth more than this!!!

    ffs; annette put this site on the "Euro-Map" and it wouldnt be what it is today without her..

    If they ban her, we should all change our avatars to "Free Annette_15"
  10. Well I'm glad Pstars at least tries to find find cheaters. That being said a ban for doing something like that is uncalled for. By those standards Viet0king account must be under review a lot. Yes I know I have his user name wrong, I think you know what I mean.
  11. retarded, i dont see why u cant agree to go all in if u announce it to the table? if anything your helping them, this happens all the time in live rebuys, players are always trying to work out ways to go all in in certain situations (folded to them in blinds, etc.) stupid rule from stars imo and would love to hear their reasoning behind it
     
  12. no offence annette, but you knew this was against the rules (i remember the thread the first time you got banned) and you went and did it again, what did you expect??

    i don't think it's a good rule, but you more than anyone knew it and now you have to deal with the consequences. hope they're not too serious, but please stop all the nut swinging and acting like she's getting unfairly treated here.
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  13. it's good to see VerySexual dominating the rebuy hr.
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  14. "Hi Annette,

    Based on a routine review of your account which indicated unusual play
    patterns, we have made a more in depth review of your account and
    play. At this point we must ask that you provide us with some
    information that will help us to resolve this issue."

    "First, please review the hands and chat transcripts provided below and
    explain your strategy/thinking during the play of the hands.
    Next, please explain in detail your relationship, if any, to the
    player "charder30"

    Ok Chat explainations and thought process: weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee (Means im gamblin)

    ooiooooooooooooooo ( Means my gamblin hit big time)

    lol ship (means I pretty much owned that hand)

    sowwy (means I just bad beated somebody)

    still love me (means i think its funny that I beat Charder)

    If anyone it will be me (means i will probably get some weird email for risking $100, which is an amount I would prop bet someone that they cant blink 60 times in a minute)

    But whatever, I dont play anymore anyway (means, I got a bazillion dollars, so I play for fun now, just like im doing here)

    Relationship with Charder: Me and Charder travel the globe together fishing for trout in all the rivers and streams in North America. Oh and we are siamese twins)

    Strategy: push and pray, double if I win, rebuy if I lose, but most of all deliver some really bad beats along the way

    "Your account privileges have been suspended pending the outcome of our
    review. Please respond fully and completely within 48 hours. Your
    cooperation will help to bring the matter to a close promptly."

    "Kind Regards,

    Annette, feel free to cut and paste any of my responses to PS's inquiries. I hope I helped save your time in this matter."

    On a semi serious note, what exactly is illegal about pushing any two cards? Hasn't Poker stars ever watched PBDrunks in a $10 rebuy?
  15. It's pretty much bullshit that Poker stars has rules and actually tries to enforce them.
  16. Yes I understand that its a rule, the only thing that bothers e is that I'M the only one they will ever catch because no one else gets reported. They cant just punish one person for something 54546846534 others on the site has done. Its unfair that they use me as an example of something thats wrong, just so other ppl will see it.
    Thread Starter
  17. What is the rule? All I see is that PS is askig about unusual playing patterns.
    Is the rule you cannot push cards unless they are strong/ good starting hands?
    Is the rule you cannot go weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee when you push ?

    I am serious, what is PS complaint? I see this in every low buy in rebuy on stars.
  18. The rule is that its collusion to decide (ask the other player if he wants to flip) to go all in blind during the rebuy hour.
    Thread Starter
  19. Hello Annette,

    We recently received a report regarding an agreement you made in
    chat with 'charder30' in tournament #95822710.

    At issue is the agreement that you and 'charder30' would both go all-in on
    the next hand.

    Such agreements violate tournament rule # 9 which states in part...

    "Poker is an individual (not a team) game. Any action or chat intended
    to help another player is unethical and is prohibited."

    The full set of tournament rules is available at:

    http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/tournaments/rules/

    In future tournaments please refrain from making any comments that could
    be construed as suggesting or agreeing to cooperative play between
    players. It is against the rules to assist or to suggest that anyone else
    assist
    another player.

    There is no question as to the inappropriate nature of the agreement
    and subsequent discussion between 'charder30' and yourself.

    Had the survivor of the all-in match gone on to finish in the money, they
    would have been disqualified. Since neither of you finished in the money,
    disqualification is not an option.

    As this is your second such offence of the same nature the decision has
    been made to suspend your account for a period of one month. The intent
    of this "suspension" is to emphasize that what you and ‘charder30’ did was
    a serious violation of our tournament rules. At the same time it takes
    into account that this decision was most likely made without malicious
    intent.

    Your play privileges will be restored on the 21st of August 2008 at
    12:00am.

    Please read our tournament rules from the link provided above and
    acknowledge you understand and agree to abide by them in the future.

    You are a valued player at PokerStars and I'm sure you understand that
    these rules are in place to insure the integrity of our games for all
    players, yourself included.

    Regards,

    Troy
    PokerStars Support Team

    GG Stars account for a month....
    Thread Starter
  20. I totally missed the "flip charder ?" comment

    Obviously you should go to jail.

    seriously, I guess it could be bad for the game/table if people were flipping and agreeing to flip. A rule is a rule.

    Collusion though? I dont think so.
  21.  
    Originally Posted by Annette_15 View Post

    Yes I understand that its a rule, the only thing that bothers e is that I'M the only one they will ever catch because no one else gets reported. They cant just punish one person for something 54546846534 others on the site has done. Its unfair that they use me as an example of something thats wrong, just so other ppl will see it.

    agree
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  22. It's so lol that they would choose to make an example of Annette (AGAIN!) when this shit happens everyday. GFY stars
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  23. lol @ stars
     
  24. Does that mean you won't be playing in the WCOOP?...that would kind of suck...was kind of hoping to watching you take down one of those events...
  25. Fuck this man, this is sooo ghey!@#@#!

    How did this bs even start? People complaining u r putting too many chips on the table? People are so ghey and dumb w/ reporting.
     
  26. i cant login into stars, got the first email annette got, just responded. o well, this is retarded and unreal.
     
  27. Try telling them since it's 2X month you thought it would be OK to do it again.
  28. its a dumb rule but what were you guys thinking?
  29.  
    Originally Posted by mattg1983 View Post

    its a dumb rule but what were you guys thinking?

    exactly
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  30.  
    Originally Posted by mattg1983 View Post


    its a dumb rule but what were you guys thinking?

    people do it everyday and i haven't heard of anyone banned since annette first got banned, which was what almost a year ago?
     

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