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Everyone knows what happened last year when I got my ass banned from Stars for a week for going all in blind.... well, I still like to gamble lol and did some flipping again earlier in the rebuy.
Hi Annette,
Based on a routine review of your account which indicated unusual play
patterns, we have made a more in depth review of your account and
play. At this point we must ask that you provide us with some
information that will help us to resolve this issue.
First, please review the hands and chat transcripts provided below and
explain your strategy/thinking during the play of the hands.
Next, please explain in detail your relationship, if any, to the
player "charder30"
Your account privileges have been suspended pending the outcome of our
review. Please respond fully and completely within 48 hours. Your
cooperation will help to bring the matter to a close promptly.
Kind Regards,
Troy
pokerstars Support Team
PokerStars Game #18939178074: Tournament #95822710, $100+$9 Hold'em No
Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2008/07/19 - 14:25:42 (ET)
Table '95822710 12' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Annette_15 (2695 in chips)
Seat 2: Keesbussum (5816 in chips)
Seat 3: mikaeldiwa (2445 in chips)
Seat 4: charder30 (2880 in chips)
Seat 5: henri72 (3752 in chips)
Seat 6: SOXFAN83 (5880 in chips)
Seat 7: VerySexual (14027 in chips)
Seat 8: The Chalk (3005 in chips)
Seat 9: Volmers (3000 in chips)
SOXFAN83: posts small blind 15
VerySexual: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Annette_15 [4s 8d]
Annette_15 said, "weeeeeeeeeeee"
The Chalk: folds
VerySexual said, "ya, i had same question"
2402Dennis [observer] said, "weeeeeeeeee"
Volmers: folds
Annette_15: raises 2665 to 2695 and is all-in
Keesbussum: folds
mikaeldiwa: folds
charder30: calls 2695
henri72: folds
SOXFAN83: folds
VerySexual: folds
charder30 said, "i swear pokerstars better not ban me"
*** FLOP *** [Qs Js As]
*** TURN *** [Qs Js As] [9c]
*** RIVER *** [Qs Js As 9c] [4h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Annette_15: shows [4s 8d] (a pair of Fours)
charder30: shows [7h Ts] (high card Ace)
Annette_15 collected 5435 from pot
charder30 said, "so sick"
charder30 said, "\"
Annette_15 said, "ooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhh"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5435 | Rake 0
Board [Qs Js As 9c 4h]
Seat 1: Annette_15 showed [4s 8d] and won (5435) with a pair of Fours
Seat 2: Keesbussum folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: mikaeldiwa folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: charder30 showed [7h Ts] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 5: henri72 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: SOXFAN83 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: VerySexual (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: The Chalk folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Volmers folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Annette_15 flip charder? 1 7/19/2008 2:25:18 PM
charder30 ok 4 7/19/2008 2:25:36 PM
Annette_15 weeeeeeeeeeee 1 7/19/2008 2:25:44 PM
VerySexual ya, i had same question 7 7/19/2008
2:25:48 PM
2402Dennis weeeeeeeeee Observer 7/19/2008 2:25:48 PM
charder30 i swear pokerstars better not ban me 4 7/19/2008
2:26:07 PM
charder30 so sick 4 7/19/2008 2:26:20 PM
charder30 \ 4 7/19/2008 2:26:21 PM
Annette_15 ooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhh 1 7/19/2008
2:26:23 PM
2402Dennis lol Observer 7/19/2008 2:26:25 PM
Annette_15 lol ship 1 7/19/2008 2:26:30 PM
Annette_15 sowwy 1 7/19/2008 2:26:44 PM
Annette_15 still love me? 1 7/19/2008 2:26:47 PM
2402Dennis great move annette^^ Observer 7/19/2008
2:26:51 PM
charder30 pokerstars better not ban me for a week 4
7/19/2008 2:27:25 PM
Annette_15 if anyone it'll be me 1 7/19/2008 2:27:36 PM
Annette_15 but whatever, i dont play anymre anyway lol 1
7/19/2008 2:27:43 PM
OKOK I understand its 'illegal' even tho we're not colluding because everyone knew about it and could make their decisions accordingly.. Do I deserve it if they ban me again for being ignorant or is this as retarded as I think it is...? -
charder30 said, "i swear pokerstars better not ban me"
lol....i think its dumb, but if this is strike 2, gonna have to be much more careful in the future... -
Yeah, allin with 4-8 vs 7-10 is an obvious chip dump, lol.
This must be the most retarded thing I've ever seen in 5 years of online play. I bet the dork from stars Support wanted to see his name in a public forum, so he thought:
I'm gonna fuck up with annette, and if she makes this public, I'll be famous, wooooowowoowoowow.
So fucking stupid IMO. -
Seems ridiculous that you would get a ban for that. Im a microdonk though, what do I know.
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ummm seriously? obv it's stupid that they restrict it, but it's plain as day you're doing the same thing that got you banned last time...everyone knowing about it is irrelevant. Do you deserve it on basis of the action, obv no, but based on their rules, I'm surprised they're even asking for an explanation rather than auto-suspending you.....
charder30 prolly gonna get a week too.... -
Banning one of their most notable players for an obv gamble during early stages of a $100r??
stars.. Please, Put the gun down.. You're life is worth more than this!!!
ffs; annette put this site on the "Euro-Map" and it wouldnt be what it is today without her..
If they ban her, we should all change our avatars to "Free Annette_15" -
Well I'm glad Pstars at least tries to find find cheaters. That being said a ban for doing something like that is uncalled for. By those standards Viet0king account must be under review a lot. Yes I know I have his user name wrong, I think you know what I mean.
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retarded, i dont see why u cant agree to go all in if u announce it to the table? if anything your helping them, this happens all the time in live rebuys, players are always trying to work out ways to go all in in certain situations (folded to them in blinds, etc.) stupid rule from stars imo and would love to hear their reasoning behind it
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no offence annette, but you knew this was against the rules (i remember the thread the first time you got banned) and you went and did it again, what did you expect??
i don't think it's a good rule, but you more than anyone knew it and now you have to deal with the consequences. hope they're not too serious, but please stop all the nut swinging and acting like she's getting unfairly treated here. -
"Hi Annette,
Based on a routine review of your account which indicated unusual play
patterns, we have made a more in depth review of your account and
play. At this point we must ask that you provide us with some
information that will help us to resolve this issue."
"First, please review the hands and chat transcripts provided below and
explain your strategy/thinking during the play of the hands.
Next, please explain in detail your relationship, if any, to the
player "charder30"
Ok Chat explainations and thought process: weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee (Means im gamblin)
ooiooooooooooooooo ( Means my gamblin hit big time)
lol ship (means I pretty much owned that hand)
sowwy (means I just bad beated somebody)
still love me (means i think its funny that I beat Charder)
If anyone it will be me (means i will probably get some weird email for risking $100, which is an amount I would prop bet someone that they cant blink 60 times in a minute)
But whatever, I dont play anymore anyway (means, I got a bazillion dollars, so I play for fun now, just like im doing here)
Relationship with Charder: Me and Charder travel the globe together fishing for trout in all the rivers and streams in North America. Oh and we are siamese twins)
Strategy: push and pray, double if I win, rebuy if I lose, but most of all deliver some really bad beats along the way
"Your account privileges have been suspended pending the outcome of our
review. Please respond fully and completely within 48 hours. Your
cooperation will help to bring the matter to a close promptly."
"Kind Regards,
Annette, feel free to cut and paste any of my responses to PS's inquiries. I hope I helped save your time in this matter."
On a semi serious note, what exactly is illegal about pushing any two cards? Hasn't Poker stars ever watched PBDrunks in a $10 rebuy? -
Yes I understand that its a rule, the only thing that bothers e is that I'M the only one they will ever catch because no one else gets reported. They cant just punish one person for something 54546846534 others on the site has done. Its unfair that they use me as an example of something thats wrong, just so other ppl will see it.
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What is the rule? All I see is that PS is askig about unusual playing patterns.
Is the rule you cannot push cards unless they are strong/ good starting hands?
Is the rule you cannot go weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee when you push ?
I am serious, what is PS complaint? I see this in every low buy in rebuy on stars. -
Hello Annette,
We recently received a report regarding an agreement you made in
chat with 'charder30' in tournament #95822710.
At issue is the agreement that you and 'charder30' would both go all-in on
the next hand.
Such agreements violate tournament rule # 9 which states in part...
"Poker is an individual (not a team) game. Any action or chat intended
to help another player is unethical and is prohibited."
The full set of tournament rules is available at:
http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/tournaments/rules/
In future tournaments please refrain from making any comments that could
be construed as suggesting or agreeing to cooperative play between
players. It is against the rules to assist or to suggest that anyone else
assist
another player.
There is no question as to the inappropriate nature of the agreement
and subsequent discussion between 'charder30' and yourself.
Had the survivor of the all-in match gone on to finish in the money, they
would have been disqualified. Since neither of you finished in the money,
disqualification is not an option.
As this is your second such offence of the same nature the decision has
been made to suspend your account for a period of one month. The intent
of this "suspension" is to emphasize that what you and ‘charder30’ did was
a serious violation of our tournament rules. At the same time it takes
into account that this decision was most likely made without malicious
intent.
Your play privileges will be restored on the 21st of August 2008 at
12:00am.
Please read our tournament rules from the link provided above and
acknowledge you understand and agree to abide by them in the future.
You are a valued player at PokerStars and I'm sure you understand that
these rules are in place to insure the integrity of our games for all
players, yourself included.
Regards,
Troy
PokerStars Support Team
GG Stars account for a month.... -
I totally missed the "flip charder ?" comment
Obviously you should go to jail.
seriously, I guess it could be bad for the game/table if people were flipping and agreeing to flip. A rule is a rule.
Collusion though? I dont think so. -
agree
Originally Posted by Annette_15
Yes I understand that its a rule, the only thing that bothers e is that I'M the only one they will ever catch because no one else gets reported. They cant just punish one person for something 54546846534 others on the site has done. Its unfair that they use me as an example of something thats wrong, just so other ppl will see it.
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Does that mean you won't be playing in the WCOOP?...that would kind of suck...was kind of hoping to watching you take down one of those events...
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i cant login into stars, got the first email annette got, just responded. o well, this is retarded and unreal.
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Try telling them since it's 2X month you thought it would be OK to do it again.
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