Long debate at the table after this hand.

Bodog 6k gty ($20)

We're at 30/60. Average stack was probably around 1800 or so. No reads on villain except the pokerdb gives me FishTime. Also I've been sickly card-dead for a looooooong time.

<SPAN>Player Information
</SPAN><SPAN>MillerOneTime <SPAN> </SPAN>1 <SPAN> </SPAN> <SPAN> </SPAN>$1,065
</SPAN><SPAN>dukedaddie <SPAN> </SPAN>2 <SPAN> </SPAN> <SPAN> </SPAN>$3,430
</SPAN><SPAN>Paz5050 <SPAN> </SPAN>3 <SPAN> </SPAN> <SPAN> </SPAN>$2,580
</SPAN><SPAN>dickie <SPAN> </SPAN>4 <SPAN> </SPAN> <SPAN> </SPAN>$1,935
</SPAN><SPAN>zubs1aa <SPAN> </SPAN>5 <SPAN> </SPAN> <SPAN> </SPAN>$1,220
</SPAN><SPAN>Flip M Chips <SPAN> </SPAN>6 <SPAN> </SPAN> <SPAN> </SPAN>$1,470
</SPAN><SPAN>EPTglenn <SPAN> </SPAN>7 <SPAN> </SPAN> <SPAN> </SPAN>$1,215
</SPAN><SPAN>letmewin_thx 8 <SPAN> </SPAN> <SPAN> </SPAN>$1,540
</SPAN><SPAN>dbeach1 <SPAN> </SPAN>9 <SPAN> </SPAN> <SPAN> </SPAN><SPAN> </SPAN>$984</SPAN><SPAN>
</SPAN> <SPAN>Player<SPAN> </SPAN>Action<SPAN> </SPAN>Action Data<SPAN>

</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN>Flip M Chips <SPAN> </SPAN>Set dealer/Bring in spot 6 <SPAN>
</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN>EPTglenn <SPAN> </SPAN>Ante/Small blind <SPAN> </SPAN>$ 30.00 <SPAN>
</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN>letmewin_thx Big blind/Bring in <SPAN> </SPAN>$ 60.00 <SPAN> </SPAN></SPAN><SPAN>
zubs1aa <SPAN> </SPAN>Qs Ks <SPAN>
</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN>dbeach1 <SPAN> </SPAN>Fold <SPAN> </SPAN><SPAN>
</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN>MillerOneTi<SPAN> </SPAN>Call <SPAN> </SPAN>$ 60.00 <SPAN>
</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN>dukedaddie <SPAN> </SPAN>Call <SPAN> </SPAN>$ 60.00 <SPAN>
</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN>Paz5050 <SPAN> </SPAN>Fold <SPAN> </SPAN><SPAN>
</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN>dickie <SPAN> </SPAN>Call <SPAN> </SPAN>$ 60.00 <SPAN>
</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN>zubs1aa <SPAN> </SPAN>Call <SPAN> </SPAN>$ 60.00 <SPAN>
</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN>Flip M Chips <SPAN> </SPAN>Fold <SPAN> </SPAN><SPAN>
</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN>EPTglenn <SPAN> </SPAN>All-in <SPAN> </SPAN>$ 1,185.00 <SPAN>
</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN>letmewin_thx Fold <SPAN> </SPAN><SPAN>
</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN>MillerOneTime Fold <SPAN> </SPAN><SPAN>
</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN>dukedaddie <SPAN> </SPAN>Fold <SPAN> </SPAN><SPAN>
</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN>dickie <SPAN> </SPAN>Fold <SPAN>
</SPAN> </SPAN><SPAN>zubs1aa <SPAN> ??????
</SPAN></SPAN><SPAN>

Total pot is 1785, 1125 to call, I need 39% equity to make it +EV.
</SPAN>

Looking at the shove, it really smelled to me as a guy trying to steal a pot. Maybe a small pair or a junky ace. Definitely something he wouldn't want to play postflop.

If I call and lose, I have exactly 5 chips left. Call and win and I've more than doubled. I decided to go with my gut reaction, call and gamble a bit.

What would you do?

Thanks........

 

Originally Posted by Nate Avenson

Zubs,

If we assume that he is only semi bluffing in his steal attempt and is making this play with only the top 10% of hands then, suprisingly, this is a good call as you have 42% equity.

That being said, I'm pretty sure we can find a better spot than this.

And what if assume he's donking about? (plus whatever your gut feel is worth to you...?)

 

Originally Posted by bonflizubi

 

Originally Posted by Nate Avenson

Zubs,

If we assume that he is only semi bluffing in his steal attempt and is making this play with only the top 10% of hands then, suprisingly, this is a good call as you have 42% equity.

That being said, I'm pretty sure we can find a better spot than this.

And what if assume he's donking about? (plus whatever your gut feel is worth to you...?)

My point was that even if he was only semibluffing with the steal attempt, you are still good. If he is capable of making this play with ATC, you have 63.4% equity.

Even though it's early, you still only have 20 bb's. If villain is capable of shoving light here then I'm calling 100% of the time.

 

Originally Posted by Micdiddy

How could anyone fold face up?

i was asking the hypothetical, if villain shoves and then fliups his cards up before I have to act- so i know what he has....it's an auto-call....

 

Originally Posted by bonflizubi

 

Originally Posted by Micdiddy

How could anyone fold face up?

i was asking the hypothetical, if villain shoves and then fliups his cards up before I have to act- so i know what he has....it's an auto-call....

yes. obv. you'll be 62%.

 

Originally Posted by paz5050

You said that you had a dead read on him, so if you 'know' that suited-connectors were in his range that I like this call A LOT more, but last night, just taking the hand as straight-forward and in a vacuum, it looks more like ur a dog to a range of something like:

Board:

Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied

Hand 0: 43.646% 40.83% 02.82% 464234664 32006504.00 { KQs }

Hand 1: 56.354% 53.54% 02.82% 608722184 32006504.00 { 22+, A8s+, KTs+, QJs, A9o+, KQo }

So, without knowing much about what Glenn is capable of I just thought this looked like a marginal spot. I usually try to avoid marginal spots unless its go time and i gotta get it in.

Paz- since you were at the table interesting to seee the range you assign. Given that range, I'm better then a coinflip from the pot odds - I only need 39% - so that'd be 4% edge if you nailed his range right.

Guess it's a question of whether you want to flip or not......

"We're at 30/60."
"Also I've been sickly card-dead for a looooooong time."

^^^^^ lol ^^^^^