^^^so says mr. last big cash in 2007! yikesss!!!!

 

Originally Posted by flipxpelon562

since 2003 the only proven WSOP Main Event winners is Hashem and Eastgate...

What are you basing that on? Greg Raymer, Jamie Gold, Jerry Yang, and Joe Cada have also won the main event since 2003, so I'm pretty sure that makes them proven Main Event winners. There's tons of proof all over the internet that they won the main event, plus their pictures are on the wall. If that isn't proof than I don't know what is.

 

Originally Posted by flipxpelon562

This thread wouldnt be made or replied to if the straight never hit on the river...

Obviously they wouldn't make a sympathy thread for Matt Affleck if he was still in the tournament and huge chipleader, there would be nothing to be sympathetic about. That was an incredibly stupid comment. That's like saying the "Funnygut - 4th in the sunday warmup" thread wouldn't have ever been made if Funnygut didn't get 4th in the sunday warmup. Well DUH.

 

Originally Posted by Learn2Muck

Matt Affleck acts as if he took the bad beat of the century, his beat was pretty standard not much too it. Unlucky better luck next year bud.

lol jesus h christ. Yeah ur prob right man, who wants to make the final table of the world series of poker main event with a big chiplead? no biggie. Nice 1st post i look forward to more contributions from you here on p5's in the future.

he played the hand like a true champ without fear in the biggest turnamnet of the yr.. No question about that...he got it in with the best hand on the turn for a massive stack and went with a read that unfortnatly possible cost him millions...Now beens its so close to ft of the biggest turnamnet of the yr and he had a nice healthy stack to begin with if his read is wrong and he loses the pot he is (OUT) If he checks back the turn for pot controll he can find a way to fold on the river.. with 1 pair.. No way am i saying he played it bad he played it like a champ and a guy with no fear does and did..

the retardness is this thread makes me smile.. one or two of these have to be levels, but some of these post a terribad.... Im glad he posted the timing itt, def sheds more light on the hand... awful beat at an awful time.. idk if i could handle it...

 

Originally Posted by thechemist83

This thread is useless for anything other than praising his maturity level by going back and shaking everyone's hands after a beat that could potentially ruin someone's life permanently. How can anyone judge the way he played the hand without having his reads/experience against the player involved. We can't judge these things based on a few tv highlights from the several hours they spent together throughout the end of the tournament. He got it in good for chip lead and most likely a top 3 finish with one card to come. How can you insult that ever?

good post

 

Originally Posted by thechemist83

This thread is useless for anything other than praising his maturity level by going back and shaking everyone's hands after a beat that could potentially ruin someone's life permanently. How can anyone judge the way he played the hand without having his reads/experience against the player involved. We can't judge these things based on a few tv highlights from the several hours they spent together throughout the end of the tournament. He got it in good for chip lead and most likely a top 3 finish with one card to come. How can you insult that ever?

Excatly this, whether u think he played the hand right or wrong, it doesnt matter.
The fact is took a huge bad beat on the river for a pot that was nothing other than life changing.
I think his reaction and his lip quivering told you just how much he wanted it, and how hard he had tried and well he had played throughout the gruelling 8 days of poker. I don't think many people who wanted it as bad as him would have come back in that room and taken the bad beat graciously. Should be very proud of the way you handled yourself.
Made me lol Duhamel i mean he doesnt have to feel bad or sympathetic to Matt, but at least rise your fucking arse up off your seat and shake his hand, that and his general reaction after pissed me off, realise u gave somebody the worst beat they will ever take in their life.

 

Originally Posted by jedd

nobody is insulting his play. we non-badges just want to learn from his 10 million+ mistake right or wrong. but i guarantee the next time you're holding pocket aces and oh so close the big score, you will be thinking about affleck and shoving pre.

If you non-badges (not all obviously) would ask questions in a productive manner without insults, assumptions, and judgements, us badges would post more often and be more likely to share productive info. Most threads here are exactly like this one and go south quickly, which make the great players less likely to share their advice for those few humble amateurs who are truly trying to learn to improve with an open mind.

As for the last part of your sentence, that is simply absurd. Good players are going to extract as much value as possible with their aces. If he felt he was getting called preflop, I imagine he would have done his best to get it all in preflop with the best hand in the game.

 

Originally Posted by thechemist83

This thread is useless for anything other than praising his maturity level by going back and shaking everyone's hands after a beat that could potentially ruin someone's life permanently. How can anyone judge the way he played the hand without having his reads/experience against the player involved. We can't judge these things based on a few tv highlights from the several hours they spent together throughout the end of the tournament. He got it in good for chip lead and most likely a top 3 finish with one card to come. How can you insult that ever?

Exactly, as someone else mentioned...read the hand history at the time and thought it was gutting. I just saw it and it was exponentially worse than I could have imagined...
2 years deep and amazing play
16 days of insanity
a minimum of $4M in equity gone with all the $ in as an 4-1 fav (playing to win and making the correct play)
not to mention all of the grinding in years before and the immediacy of one moment that feels like it will define or reward all your work.

It looked worse than a 6 year old finding his dead dog on the road. He handled that better than 99.9% of people... who will never be in that position.

LOL @ you idiots saying Matt played AA badly, what a bunch of retards.

Like duh obviously.


Oh, and MDshack is GOD

everyone plz stop saying that if affleck 5bet shoved pre duhamel is folding JJ.. its fking bvb and duhamel would still have 50bbs if he lost im pretty sure hes calling

everyone has their own opinion i would put raymer still slightly below eastgate and haschem though...but way ahead of the other post 2003 champs...

This isn't nearly as bad as people are making it seem. Once this hand gets to the turn, I think JJ should just ship, but nevertheless, the call only loses like 13 bbs? He's got 21% equity calling 11 mil into a 31 mil pot. -3.something million. Not nearly as bad as Ivey v Monkeymaker in 03, this hand really isn't very poorly played.

Folding is not an option for Affleck, whoever thinks he should pot control or something is retarded, its like half a pot shove. Stick it, imo.

BL, not nearly as bad as people make it out to be, plenty of people have lost plenty worse.

EDIT: It's not nearly as bad as the runner runner delivered to Cheong after some weirdo calls a 3b ship post on 665cc with 75ss, JC holding AA.

would've been sick to watch a 4 way battle between: McMatto, Grinder, Subiime, and Pocket Five battle it out.

Would've been epic.

 

Originally Posted by jedd

nobody is insulting his play. we non-badges just want to learn from his 10 million+ mistake right or wrong. but i guarantee the next time you're holding pocket aces and oh so close the big score, you will be thinking about affleck and shoving pre.

i def agree with you man. hate when these DONKEYS call a raise with 77 and flop a set on my AA. if i'm first in a pot with AA i usually raise it really really big, like 8 or 9x the big blind just so they fold. if they want to play they go all in and i've got AA so jokes on THEM. AM I RIGHT!?they don't see that shit coming hahaha

 

Originally Posted by Hub Dub 04

LOL @ you idiots saying Matt played AA badly, what a bunch of retards.

Like duh obviously.

Oh, and MDshack is GOD

..i believe in small ball I alwayes raise 3 times the blind & if I wana raise bigggg it's 5times...well when u have an over Big pair & someone flop a set on u or 2 pairs it's a cooler but that's were ur skill comes 2 the test...r u really good enugh 2 fold the AA when u know u beat on a 7c9h4d & some one check raise u allin 4 all ur chips...u have 2 ask urself did he call me preeflopp with 97sited or maybe pocket 44 or he just floating with air with 58 & he has a inside...b...i mean that's @ least how I think....