So Forrest made the weight of 140 pounds by july 15th leaving Matusow and Smith to pay 2M...tough break for Mikey, gotta be one of the sickest props of all time.

http://www.fulltiltpoker.com/poker-b....php#more-3876

There is also a link on pokerstatic.

sorry if this is a repost.

christ, Ted looks absolutely terrible...

 

Originally Posted by watson5j

christ, Ted looks absolutely terrible...

Meh, I wouldn't mind looking that terrible for 2 million. Think of all the Big macs you could buy to help bulk up again

Not very smart bet by matusow. It was just a matter of if he was going to lose 1 or 2 million. andbody know how tall forrest is.

he looks like hell, I thought it was a pic of someone else at first. 2 milli def worth it though

 

Originally Posted by Niceguy

I don't know how people are snap saying looking like this and losing that much weight in such a short time s worth it. The long term health of effects of this could shave 10 years off his life. He's already a millionaire so how much equity is 2 million actually adding to his life.

Just a dumb prop bet by degenerates.

gotta agree with this.

 

Originally Posted by Niceguy

I don't know how people are snap saying looking like this and losing that much weight in such a short time s worth it. The long term health of effects of this could shave 10 years off his life. He's already a millionaire so how much equity is 2 million actually adding to his life.

Just a dumb prop bet by degenerates.

Um that would be a no, he lost maybe 40 pounds of weight the last ten was probably manipulating his water level. please explain to me how losing 40 pounds is going to take tens years of his life. This is a pretty big over reaction.

 

Originally Posted by houston_wildcard

Xlnt observation, a few years ago a 38 year old pro gamblah died of a sudden & massive heart attack after going through some weight fluctuations.

probably an underlying condition.

 

Originally Posted by rugger48

Um that would be a no, he lost maybe 40 pounds of weight the last ten was probably manipulating his water level. please explain to me how losing 40 pounds is going to take tens years of his life. This is a pretty big over reaction.

probably an underlying condition.

+1

 

Originally Posted by Niceguy

I don't know how people are snap saying looking like this and losing that much weight in such a short time s worth it. The long term health of effects of this could shave 10 years off his life. He's already a millionaire so how much equity is 2 million actually adding to his life.

Just a dumb prop bet by degenerates.

Fact: "The sky is falling"... <<---- I heard it from Chicken Little!

 

Originally Posted by Niceguy

Okay, so 40lbs, in 2 months. That's 140,000 calories in 60 days. This means he'd need an avg daily calorie deficit of 2,333. The avg male has a normal metabolic rate of 2,500 calories a day. So without working out at all he could only consume 167 calories a day. Naturally he consumed more calories than that, probably in the 1000-1500 range. Which is still pushing the limits, as most dietitians, nutritionists, doctors will tell you any deficit over 1k for an extended period of time is unhealthy. Take into account he was only 177 in the first place, and what I said is not a big over reaction at all.

Kidney failure, liver damage, Ulcers, all are the effects of starvation that have serious impact on a person's body that can lead to fatal complications.

40 lbs in 60 days, i know people who have done that. Your really going over board with

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Kidney failure, liver damage, Ulcers, all are the effects of starvation that have serious impact on a person's body that can lead to fatal complications."

By the way alot of dieticians,dooctors, and nutritionist have no idea about stuff like this, the stuff these people learn in school is outdated or get their nutritional info fromk the gov. There is alot more to losing weight then calories in and calories out. all he would have to do is take 2-3 protein shakes a day , a multi, some efas and a fiber supplement and he would be fine.

By the way he was 188 if I read correctly, if it were 177 it would have been pretty easy for him. If anything it was probably more healthy for him than anything. He probably got his lipid levels in check and he probably feels pretty good from the amount of toxins his body got rid of.

I mean seriously 10 years of his life, really? Its not like he smoked crack everyday to kill his appetite.

The keyword is could. Not that it will. But it could.

And you're right, wtf do people who make it their profession to know about the human body actually know about the human body. It's not like millions are spent on research per year testing various drugs, and conducting various studies. As for losing weight, calories in and calories out is the sole driving factor in that. As it pertains to weight loss, nothing else matters besides caloric intake. You could have a 1500 calorie diet of doughnuts per day and lose weight. You could gorge yourself on 3000 calories of celery and gain weight. That's the science.

Look at him, he's completely emaciated. I doubt he was taking in 2-3 protein shakes a day. Muscle weighing more than fat, it'd be impossible to get below a certain threshold unless he let his body start cannibalizing his muscle. Meaning very strict protein portion control.

But I saw you said lipid levels, and toxins. I.e you're a kook, so this will be my last response.

 

Originally Posted by Niceguy

The keyword is could. Not that it will. But it could.

And you're right, wtf do people who make it their profession to know about the human body actually know about the human body. It's not like millions are spent on research per year testing various drugs, and conducting various studies. As for losing weight, calories in and calories out is the sole driving factor in that. As it pertains to weight loss, nothing else matters besides caloric intake. You could have a 1500 calorie diet of doughnuts per day and lose weight. You could gorge yourself on 3000 calories of celery and gain weight. That's the science.

Look at him, he's completely emaciated. I doubt he was taking in 2-3 protein shakes a day. Muscle weighing more than fat, it'd be impossible to get below a certain threshold unless he let his body start cannibalizing his muscle. Meaning very strict protein portion control.

But I saw you said lipid levels, and toxins. I.e you're a kook, so this will be my last response.

Def not possible to eat 3000 calories of celery a day. Also, the situation is not as simple as eat more calories->gain weight and eat less calories->lose weight. The calculation is calories in minus calories out and every 3500 calories equals one pound. And yes, calories in is simple. The calories out is not. The body GREATLY changes calories out and what is stored as what. A large portion of that depends on ones intake.

 

Originally Posted by rugger48

because i mentioned lipid and toxins im a kook. riiiiiiiiight. You do realize lipid levels have to do with cholesterol right?: Hmm I wonder why a man over the age of 40 would benefit from his lipid level being good. You also do know that toxins( mercury, certain metals, bad estrogen) reside in fat, and when you lose weight those toxins release. You obviosly have no idea what your talking about at all, I will say this again losing weight is more than calories in or out.

Those doctors, nutritionist that your raving about so much I wonder what they were thinking when they came up with the BMI index or the food pyramid or even the daily recommend nutritional requirements that the government lists?

I agree, nutrition is such a young science that it's pretty much retarded to listen to at this point. How do I know that? Well, basically, it changes every few years. First you're supposed to eat eggs. Then don't eat eggs. Then eat eggs again. Then this. Then that. Like rugger48 says, the food pyramid was developed and marketed and they now admit that it's totally wrong. Nutritionists are the ones who said that eating saturated fat is bad for you which led to the development of margarine and the subsequent marketing of that as a healthy alternative to butter. Guess what that led to? Transfats! The process of creating margarine also packs the stuff full of transfats. Now that they've figured out that transfats are bad too, that is off the list.

Another recent big thing is antioxidants. People just read that antioxidants are associated with lower cancer rates. For most people, they just say, okay I will eat a lot of blueberries, they have antioxidants. What no one seems to know is that there are many types of antioxidants. I think upwards of 50. You need to eat a balanced range of fruits and vegetables (more colors basically equals more different types of antioxidants) to get what might or might not be a decreased risk of cancer.

And one other thing I want to rant on about nutritionists. The whole vitamin craze is total nonsense. Eating vitamins does not replace eating the real thing. It should only be a total last resort if you are incapable of getting the nutrient as it exists in nature. There is a lot of evidence to indicate that vitamins don't work the same way as the real thing and, as far as I know, there is no evidence showing that vitamins definitely work as well as the real thing on a widespread basis (maybe one or two types work on a narrow level). Stop relying on multivitamins to keep your body in balance nutrient-wise while you pound fast food. It won't work.

Anyway, this is way off topic. Good luck to Ted getting back to normal.

Prolly doesn't even have 2m to pay Ted..."Can I get an IOU for the next 25 years? I'll pay you sometime when I win the ME."

damnnnn

http://www.fulltiltpoker.com/poker-blog/2010/07/summary-the-ted-forrest-and-mike-matusow-weight-loss-prop-bet-of-2010-1117-2010-wsop-98.php

apparently he didnt eat for 11 days

Matt Damon lost 40 pounds in 100 days for his role in Courage Under Fire and it hurt his health

"Damon next appeared as an opiate-addicted soldier in 1996's Courage Under Fire. He was required to lose 40 pounds (18 kg) in 100 days (for only two days of filming).[20][21] After following a self-prescribed diet and fitness regimen to lose the weight, Damon was told after filming that he was fortunate his heart did not shrink. He took medication for several years afterwards to correct the stress inflicted on his adrenal gland."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Damon