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  1. crooked2412 crooked2412 is offline

    Fremont, CA
    United States

    Posts: 561
    Joined: Jan 07

    Sep 23rd, 2008 (9/23/2008 10:01pm)

    Hand just occured in $3...wondering if on that board should i be raising river or is the smooth call justified w/ the flush getting there on the turn...

    pokerstars Game #20645752643: Tournament #109499911, $3.00+$0.30 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (150/300) - 2008/09/23 21:54:41 ET
    Table '109499911 99' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
    Seat 1: linna-linna (8765 in chips)
    Seat 2: JZMeldon (12098 in chips)
    Seat 3: crooked2412 (27392 in chips)
    Seat 4: Eham5 (25977 in chips)
    Seat 5: Bizzurk (9201 in chips)
    Seat 6: pewewonder (17890 in chips)
    Seat 7: bhop31 (3630 in chips)
    Seat 8: bluffinnz (27770 in chips)
    Seat 9: sarahsash (7491 in chips)
    linna-linna: posts the ante 25
    JZMeldon: posts the ante 25
    crooked2412: posts the ante 25
    Eham5: posts the ante 25
    Bizzurk: posts the ante 25
    pewewonder: posts the ante 25
    bhop31: posts the ante 25
    bluffinnz: posts the ante 25
    sarahsash: posts the ante 25
    Eham5: posts small blind 150
    Bizzurk: posts big blind 300
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to crooked2412 [As Ah]
    pewewonder: folds
    bhop31: folds
    bluffinnz: raises 600 to 900
    sarahsash: folds
    linna-linna: folds
    JZMeldon: folds
    crooked2412: raises 900 to 1800
    Eham5: folds
    Bizzurk: folds
    bluffinnz: calls 900
    *** FLOP *** [5s 3s 8h]
    bluffinnz: checks
    crooked2412: bets 3100
    bluffinnz: calls 3100
    *** TURN *** [5s 3s 8h] [Ks]
    bluffinnz: checks
    crooked2412: checks
    *** RIVER *** [5s 3s 8h Ks] [Ad]
    bluffinnz: bets 5100
    crooked2412: calls 5100
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    bluffinnz: shows [8s 8c] (three of a kind, Eights)
    crooked2412: shows [As Ah] (three of a kind, Aces)
    crooked2412 collected 20675 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 20675 | Rake 0
    Board [5s 3s 8h Ks Ad]
    Seat 1: linna-linna folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: JZMeldon folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: crooked2412 (button) showed [As Ah] and won (20675) with three of a kind, Aces
    Seat 4: Eham5 (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 5: Bizzurk (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 6: pewewonder folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: bhop31 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: bluffinnz showed [8s 8c] and lost with three of a kind, Eights
    Seat 9: sarahsash folded before Flop (didn't bet)
  2. rivverkiller rivverkiller is online now

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    Canada

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    Sep 25th, 2008 (9/25/2008 2:10am) in reply to crooked2412

    If you think he's the kind've player to stack off with top pair then yes I shove, other then that I don't mind just calling behind here. Also raise more preflop PLEASE!!!
     
  3. sct123 sct123 is offline

    Fairfield, CT
    United States

    Posts: 538
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    Sep 25th, 2008 (9/25/2008 5:14pm) in reply to crooked2412

    Why does everyone min raise aces? Makes your hand look transparent for the rest of the hand. 3-bet 3x pre, bet flop, and never ever check this turn. You pick up a redraw to the nuts why would you not bet again? As played I shove this river. Your hand has so much strength that you miss value by flat calling. Most of his range you crush and only a very small part of it consists of the flush. Not often enough that you don't need to be good here every single time to make shoving correct.
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