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Micro cash overbet w/ reads, pls help, losing equity :)

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  1. Aarin Aarin is offline

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    Dec 4th, 2009 (12/4/2009 1:43am)

    This might be 1/5th of the reason I'm still playing micro:

    Villain already has a note: "Likes to overbet, no clue what it means."

    At these stakes I can't tell if he likes shoving the nuts hoping a donk will call, or Is doing it with air. The range is ob ATC--AA. He hasn't taken me for anything so I didn't mind folding, but what should my line have been? I can't see calling a buy-in on a coinflip vs what he may have had...

    How do you deal with players that fold fold fold, aggro a hand, fold fold, f'n shove to protect their SB? He's in at least 1 hand an orbit, but only shoving one hand every 3 orbits.

    Full Tilt Poker Game #16518448853: Table Combine (6 max) - $0.02/$0.05 - No Limit Hold'em - 2:34:49 ET - 2009/12/04
    Seat 1: AggieNick ($5.66)
    Seat 2: jayex038 ($1.75)
    Seat 3: anatali ($5.31)
    Seat 4: Dadedo ($1.57)
    Seat 5: Mueggi III ($5)
    Seat 6: calvin178222 ($4.93)
    AggieNick posts the small blind of $0.02
    jayex038 posts the big blind of $0.05
    The button is in seat #6
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to anatali [Jd Qd]
    anatali has 15 seconds left to act
    anatali raises to $0.15
    Dadedo folds
    Mueggi III folds
    calvin178222 folds
    AggieNick has 15 seconds left to act
    AggieNick raises to $3.15
    jayex038 folds
    anatali has 15 seconds left to act
    anatali has requested TIME
    anatali folds
    Uncalled bet of $3 returned to AggieNick
    AggieNick mucks
    AggieNick wins the pot ($0.35)
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $0.35 | Rake $0
    Seat 1: AggieNick (small blind) collected ($0.35), mucked
    Seat 2: jayex038 (big blind) folded before the Flop
    Seat 3: anatali folded before the Flop
    Seat 4: Dadedo didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 5: Mueggi III didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 6: calvin178222 (button) didn't bet (folded)
  2. car_t_a car_t_a is offline

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    Dec 4th, 2009 (12/4/2009 1:57am) in reply to Aarin

    You simply cannot call here unless you have a very specific read that says you should. If you play long enough at this table you'll find out what his overbets mean... once you've figured that out that's a good starting point. But calling w/ Q high is horrible and definitely not optimal.
  3. Aarin Aarin is offline

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    Dec 4th, 2009 (12/4/2009 2:21am) in reply to car_t_a

     
    Originally Posted by car_t_a View Post

    You simply cannot call here unless you have a very specific read that says you should. If you play long enough at this table you'll find out what his overbets mean... once you've figured that out that's a good starting point. But calling w/ Q high is horrible and definitely not optimal.

    ty. he seemed loose, but I still don't understand what pre-shoves mean since they seem -EV.

    what do gross overbets mean? I guess I'd know after a while, but they rarely hit showdown at my stakes (his never did).

    I called one with AJ and the other guy beat me with K3, just an example, so I tend to think of them as air-steals, I'm just not sure what range I need to call these. (I'm sure AJ was calling range 6max).
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  4. dannyg1989 dannyg1989 is offline

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    Dec 4th, 2009 (12/4/2009 7:03am) in reply to Aarin

    ive put in a shit tonne of hands at 5NL and id definately say 90% of the time this is AA/KK :)
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