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  1. DJDaveCee DJDaveCee is offline broke his duck

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    Jan 30th, 2012 (1/30/2012 1:54pm)

    Hi guys

    The following hand happened the back end of last week, and i wanted to post on here to get some insight/discussion going off regarding hand ranges. Some info on the player involved, had been moved to the table about 5 minutes prior to this hand, so not a lot on info i can give unfortunately.

    I will post the results later if we get some discusions going.

    Basically, whats your hand ranges of villain, do you play the pot bet wise any different to how i played it, and what is your decision on the river?

    DJ

    pokerstars Hand #xxxxxxxxxxx: Tournament #xxxxxxxxxx, $2.00+$0.20 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level X (300/600) - 2012/01/27 22:13:56 WET [2012/01/27 17:13:56 ET]
    Table 'xxxxxxxxxx 4' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: Ivanxupz (10610 in chips) out of hand (moved from another table into small blind)
    Seat 2: Skarabatulum (32047 in chips)
    Seat 3: Tino2511 (8048 in chips)
    Seat 4: DJBigSlick (47486 in chips)
    Seat 5: Ooopex (38656 in chips)
    Seat 6: Thurix (12659 in chips)
    Skarabatulum: posts the ante 50
    Tino2511: posts the ante 50
    DJBigSlick: posts the ante 50
    Ooopex: posts the ante 50
    Thurix: posts the ante 50
    Skarabatulum: posts small blind 300
    Tino2511: posts big blind 600
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to DJBigSlick [Ah Jh]
    DJBigSlick: raises 1200 to 1800
    Ooopex: calls 1800
    Thurix: folds
    Skarabatulum: folds
    Tino2511: folds
    *** FLOP *** [As 4d 9h]
    DJBigSlick: bets 1800
    Ooopex: calls 1800
    *** TURN *** [As 4d 9h] [Ad]
    DJBigSlick: bets 4200
    Ooopex: calls 4200
    *** RIVER *** [As 4d 9h Ad] [2d]
    DJBigSlick: bets 5400
    Ooopex: raises 25406 to 30806 and is all-in
  2. McWilliams1 McWilliams1 is offline

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    Jan 30th, 2012 (1/30/2012 2:27pm) in reply to DJDaveCee

    Preflop: We could make it a little smaller here like 1450 but no biggie. You and the villain are both pretty deep and his range probs consists of 6s+, KQs, A9s+, AJo+

    Flop: (4800) - I probs bet a little bigger like just over half pot and lets us define his range a little more.

    Turn (8400) - I like a check raise here. I mean if we lead and he flats is gives us little info to what we already have. A check raise with the intention of calling a shove if 4b seems better here.

    River (16800) - This time, dependant on the turn, i like a small bet as a blocker/value bet. I doubt the villain has diamonds in his range and his range is fairly polarised to a boat, a flush or nada when he shoves. I doubt this particular villain is capable of floating two streets in position here with air. His line just screams strength but does anyone fold here?

    This is pretty gross but if we fold we still have 57bbs to play with.

    My $0.02.
    Edited By: McWilliams1 Jan 30th, 2012 at 02:28 PM
  3. djdoodoo djdoodoo is online now

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    Jan 30th, 2012 (1/30/2012 6:31pm) in reply to DJDaveCee

    My review is in the quote. Also I guess he could have something like A9, 9T (probably suited so rules out diamonds), I really don't know how loose he is.

     
    Originally Posted by DJDaveCee View Post


    Pre-Flop: Here you do not need to be raising 3xbb. I would raise 2xbb and add maybe 1 or 200 on. So preflop bet size being 1300 is better. I wouldn't mind it if you were later and people to act after you were deeper but can't really discuss anymore than this.

    Flop (pot4750): As 4d 9h -> Here we're just trying to value town, I would just raise like 2/3 of the pot or maybe just over half if he's a complete nit so we get a call from pp's like 77s and 88s. So I think your bet here is too small as he's probably going to peel the flop with my bet sizing anyway. You're almost giving him a free card when you bet the same again as it just looks so weak.

    Turn (pot8350): If you bet here and he calls the only hands he's calling with are some higher pp's, Axo and Axs so you're not getting him to fold anything he called with on the flop unless he has like pocket 5s. So I don't see much point in betting here unless you know he's spewy and probably called with Ax lower than Jack regularly. Also he's never folding a boat if he has pocket 4s or 9s. So I would check the turn. If I did bet this turn though I think you have to bet the river unless a horrendous card comes down and pairs the board again or a low diamond. So I think that this bet here is pretty bad. The only thing he really calls with is a worse ace. If you put him on an Ace then we know he can only have 1 diamond in his hand. If he has a pocket pair he also only has one diamond in his hand. So only a boat or a better Ace beats you.

    River (16750): Probably fold but if you've seen him try to represent things like this before then you can fold. I wouldn't actually mind if you looked him up here if we think he has an Ace because then we know he doesn't have two diamonds. Soz for rambling. Also I don't like the river bet because you can't stand a raise really.

    Dealt to DJBigSlick [Ah Jh]
    DJBigSlick: raises 1200 to 1800
    Ooopex: calls 1800
    Thurix: folds
    Skarabatulum: folds
    Tino2511: folds
    *** FLOP *** [As 4d 9h]
    DJBigSlick: bets 1800
    Ooopex: calls 1800
    *** TURN *** [As 4d 9h] [Ad]
    DJBigSlick: bets 4200
    Ooopex: calls 4200
    *** RIVER *** [As 4d 9h Ad] [2d]
    DJBigSlick: bets 5400
    Ooopex: raises 25406 to 30806 and is all-in

    Edited By: djdoodoo Jan 30th, 2012 at 06:39 PM
  4. P33J P33J is offline

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    Jan 30th, 2012 (1/30/2012 11:30pm) in reply to djdoodoo

    I think you played it fine as long as you folded the river. His hand definetely looks like a full house at this point, even if it is not I doubt he is shoving worse aces on the river (ie even if he decides to overplay an ace it is more likely he would shove AQ or AK than A10,AJ,A8)
     
  5. DJDaveCee DJDaveCee is offline broke his duck

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    Feb 1st, 2012 (2/1/2012 12:45pm) in reply to P33J

    Well, was hoping to get a tad more discussion going off on the hand, but i guess theres not many peeps that use the site much now, guessing because of Black Friday..

    As regards to the hand, i did fold the trips, based on the fact that i was so deep stacked at the time, i thought i could get a better spot later on. The toughest part was ranging him/her, which was why i wanted to maybe get some discussions going. I ended up bubbling the final table though grrrrr :/

    pokerstars Hand #74587740762: Tournament #557010555, $2.00+$0.20 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level X (300/600) - 2012/01/27 22:13:56 WET [2012/01/27 17:13:56 ET]
    Table '557010555 4' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: Ivanxupz (10610 in chips) out of hand (moved from another table into small blind)
    Seat 2: Skarabatulum (32047 in chips)
    Seat 3: Tino2511 (8048 in chips)
    Seat 4: DJBigSlick (47486 in chips)
    Seat 5: Ooopex (38656 in chips)
    Seat 6: Thurix (12659 in chips)
    Skarabatulum: posts the ante 50
    Tino2511: posts the ante 50
    DJBigSlick: posts the ante 50
    Ooopex: posts the ante 50
    Thurix: posts the ante 50
    Skarabatulum: posts small blind 300
    Tino2511: posts big blind 600
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to DJBigSlick [Ah Jh]
    DJBigSlick: raises 1200 to 1800
    Ooopex: calls 1800
    Thurix: folds
    Skarabatulum: folds
    Tino2511: folds
    *** FLOP *** [As 4d 9h]
    DJBigSlick: bets 1800
    Ooopex: calls 1800
    *** TURN *** [As 4d 9h] [Ad]
    DJBigSlick: bets 4200
    Ooopex: calls 4200
    *** RIVER *** [As 4d 9h Ad] [2d]
    DJBigSlick: bets 5400
    Ooopex: raises 25406 to 30806 and is all-in
    DJBigSlick: folds
    Uncalled bet (25406) returned to Ooopex
    Ooopex collected 27550 from pot
    Ooopex: doesn't show hand
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 27550 | Rake 0
    Board [As 4d 9h Ad 2d]
    Seat 2: Skarabatulum (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 3: Tino2511 (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 4: DJBigSlick folded on the River
    Seat 5: Ooopex collected (27550)
    Seat 6: Thurix (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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