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Mini FTOPS 2 day event Early puke spot with AA - HELP!

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  1. buriedatsea buriedatsea is offline

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    May 15th, 2010 (5/15/2010 1:47pm)

    I don't play many MTTs anymore but this spot just seemed horrible. Any thoughts on my line? Maybe I should be folding the turn. No reads on the villain apart from he's swedish. Thoughts on a river call also?

    Full Tilt Poker Game #20859366939: MiniFTOPS Event #25 (2-Day) (147684411), Table 66 - 15/30 Ante 4 - No Limit Hold'em - 13:33:54 ET - 2010/05/15
    Seat 1: buriedatsea (5,009)
    Seat 2: Bluff 2My Nuts (6,482)
    Seat 3: pie42 (4,798), is sitting out
    Seat 4: EHVHOOLS (5,527)
    Seat 5: chkkkk (830)
    Seat 6: Yugobear (4,987)
    Seat 7: WidowJack (4,022)
    Seat 8: whiteduck7 (9,232)
    Seat 9: Hagamannen (4,941)
    pie42 posts the small blind of 15
    EHVHOOLS posts the big blind of 30
    The button is in seat #2
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to buriedatsea [Ah As]
    chkkkk folds
    Yugobear folds
    WidowJack has 15 seconds left to act
    WidowJack folds
    whiteduck7 folds
    Hagamannen raises to 87
    buriedatsea raises to 260
    Bluff 2My Nuts folds
    pie42 folds
    EHVHOOLS folds
    Hagamannen calls 173
    *** FLOP *** [3s 9h 4s]
    Hagamannen checks
    buriedatsea has 15 seconds left to act
    buriedatsea bets 300
    Hagamannen raises to 699
    buriedatsea has 15 seconds left to act
    buriedatsea calls 399 ??
    *** TURN *** [3s 9h 4s] [Kd]
    Hagamannen bets 955
    buriedatsea has 15 seconds left to act
    buriedatsea calls 955 ??
    *** RIVER *** [3s 9h 4s Kd] [Qh]
    Hagamannen has 15 seconds left to act
    Hagamannen has requested TIME
    Hagamannen bets 3,023, and is all in
    buriedatsea has 15 seconds left to act
    buriedatsea has requested TIME
    buriedatsea folds ??
     
  2. welches welches is offline

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    May 15th, 2010 (5/15/2010 1:54pm) in reply to buriedatsea

    im thinkin a set of 4s or just a busted flush draw and thinks youll fold to a shove. But im leaning towards the set of 4s i think its a good fold on the river. I woulda called on the turn also just to see what he does on the river.
  3. MakeMeMaster MakeMeMaster is offline

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    May 15th, 2010 (5/15/2010 1:57pm) in reply to welches

    fold turn?? I dont know, im not good in post flop play. The river fold is good, we beat absolutely nothing. (i don't think he has a busted flush draw).

    Somebody good tell us what we need to do.
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  4. qjuice14 qjuice14 is offline

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    May 15th, 2010 (5/15/2010 2:06pm) in reply to buriedatsea

    check call river.

    Everyone is giving villain far too much credit in this spot. Villain is a very low volume and losing random (-76roi). His lines do not have to make sense. This seems like a trivially easy call on the river, to me.
     
  5. AmSlim22 AmSlim22 is offline

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    May 15th, 2010 (5/15/2010 2:07pm) in reply to MakeMeMaster

    he doesnt have AsKs, which would have been only thing that he would maybe have that u beat. i think its a fold. i do prob call turn, i guess.
     
  6. bbbbb33 bbbbb33 is offline

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    May 15th, 2010 (5/15/2010 2:09pm) in reply to qjuice14

    would call cause his name sounds euro.
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  7. s.l. halper s.l. halper is offline

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    May 15th, 2010 (5/15/2010 3:07pm) in reply to bbbbb33

    The river fold is usually good.

    Folding the turn and refusing to tell anyone about it is probably better.

     
    Originally Posted by bbbbb33 View Post


    would call cause his name sounds euro.

    Even euros have it here, at least imo.

    EDIT: For the life of me, I can't put villain on a hand where he's flatting a 3-bet that we beat on this board with this action. There is no way he's valuing worse with TT/JJ, particularly with this turn/river combo. AKss would be a silly bluff with a hand that has ok showdown value for at least a chop. He has to have us crushed. I guess it could be pure air but it takes a lot of gumption to bluff/semi-bluff 3 streets in a 2-day tourney.
     
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