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  1. RiskBenefiter RiskBenefiter is offline

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    Jun 16th, 2009 (6/16/2009 10:35pm)

    With all the good stories coming out lately thought I would go back play some SNGs

    pokerstars Game #29454414776: Tournament #172402049, $3.00+$0.25 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2009/06/16 23:32:20 AT [2009/06/16 22:32:20 ET]
    Table '172402049 4' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
    Seat 1: PayBack2 (1420 in chips)
    Seat 2: jimjack48 (1490 in chips)
    Seat 3: DynamiteDL (1410 in chips)
    Seat 4: ScubaSteve40 (1800 in chips)
    Seat 5: Caio S. G. (2020 in chips)
    Seat 6: silveirabr (1480 in chips)
    Seat 7: hotbabe70 (1310 in chips)
    Seat 8: coconut jim (1470 in chips)
    Seat 9: deneva (1100 in chips)
    silveirabr: posts small blind 15
    hotbabe70: posts big blind 30
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to PayBack2 [9c Kc]
    coconut jim: folds
    deneva: calls 30
    PayBack2: calls 30
    jimjack48: folds
    DynamiteDL: folds
    ScubaSteve40: folds
    Caio S. G.: folds
    silveirabr: calls 15
    hotbabe70: checks
    *** FLOP *** [8c 2c Js]
    silveirabr: checks
    hotbabe70: checks
    deneva: bets 30
    PayBack2: calls 30
    silveirabr: folds
    hotbabe70: folds
    *** TURN *** [8c 2c Js] [Qd]
    deneva: bets 60
    PayBack2: raises 1300 to 1360 and is all-in
    deneva: calls 980 and is all-in
    Uncalled bet (320) returned to PayBack2
    *** RIVER *** [8c 2c Js Qd] [Qh]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    deneva: shows [Ts 9h] (a straight, Eight to Queen)
    PayBack2: shows [9c Kc] (a pair of Queens)
    deneva collected 2260 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 2260 | Rake 0
    Board [8c 2c Js Qd Qh]
    Seat 1: PayBack2 showed [9c Kc] and lost with a pair of Queens
    Seat 2: jimjack48 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: DynamiteDL folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: ScubaSteve40 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: Caio S. G. (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: silveirabr (small blind) folded on the Flop
    Seat 7: hotbabe70 (big blind) folded on the Flop
    Seat 8: coconut jim folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: deneva showed [Ts 9h] and won (2260) with a straight, Eight to Queen

    The flop was 2 light and was trying to get tricky thoughts on how it went down or could have on the flop and turn?
  2. thefuture021 thefuture021 is offline

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    Jun 16th, 2009 (6/16/2009 11:05pm) in reply to RiskBenefiter

    I'm gonna go ahead and say betting 1360 into a pot of about 200 with King high isn't an optimal play.
  3. P33J P33J is offline

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    Jun 17th, 2009 (6/17/2009 4:23am) in reply to thefuture021

    Raise the flop smallish, if he checks again on the turn check behind. Don't do what you did.
     
  4. DutchCourage DutchCourage is offline

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    Jun 17th, 2009 (6/17/2009 5:56am) in reply to RiskBenefiter

    Read today's article on bet sizing. "Bet the minimum possible amount villain will fold to if you want a fold and the maximum possible he will call if you want a call". Your turn bet will ONLY be called by hands that beat you.

    Most of the times I'd re-raise the flop in his probe bet btw, as a form of semi bluff AND to gain info. There's three scenarios (as always...):
    1) villain folds. you pick up pot without a hand. Good.
    2) Villain calls. He must have something. Maybe turn will make your flush - if not, prepare to be done with hand. Got off cheap. Good.
    3) Villain reraises. He must have me beat. Fold. Got off cheap. Good.

    You gain in each situation imo.
  5. j_farah j_farah is offline

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    Jun 17th, 2009 (6/17/2009 1:26pm) in reply to RiskBenefiter

    Fold pre. K9 is not a good hand.
  6. Tamarick Tamarick is offline

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    Jun 17th, 2009 (6/17/2009 2:31pm) in reply to j_farah

     
    Originally Posted by j_farah View Post

    Fold pre. K9 is not a good hand.

    ^^ This...

    It's way early.. no need to get tricky here.
  7. KillerFost KillerFost is offline

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    Jun 17th, 2009 (6/17/2009 2:54pm) in reply to thefuture021

     
    Originally Posted by thefuture021 View Post

    I'm gonna go ahead and say betting 1360 into a pot of about 200 with King high isn't an optimal play.

  8. RiskBenefiter RiskBenefiter is offline

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    Jun 17th, 2009 (6/17/2009 10:52pm) in reply to KillerFost

    Thanks guys definitely some good thought there.

    I guess I should have put in "What Would you do" after seeing the flop what are you doing with the hand. I was thinking it over for tone as the texture for flush and straight draw had me thinking of winning the hand with 13ish outs, MISTAKE play the hand as is. So I had seen this player move some light plays without strong holdings and miss read it here thinking that my King might have been good enough here.
    So how are you playing it once the flop comes out
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