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On the money at the WCOOP second chance, did i play too poor?

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  1. greenpepper greenpepper is offline

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    Sep 23rd, 2007 (9/23/2007 11:50pm)

    I think i played this very wrong, but i think the guy calls anyways, what do u think?

    pokerstars Game #12235687824: Tournament #70002014, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level XV (2000/4000) - 2007/09/23 - 23:41:56 (ET)
    Table '70002014 88' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
    Seat 1: Peppe10 (57833 in chips)
    Seat 2: cwmack (85099 in chips)
    Seat 3: Cashier50 (87655 in chips)
    Seat 4: HDbets (50149 in chips)
    Seat 5: Str8$$$Homey (517800 in chips)
    Seat 6: Pist0nH0nda (190507 in chips)
    Seat 7: SWANNNNN (71890 in chips)
    Seat 8: cheetah1001 (78894 in chips)
    Seat 9: Moorman1 (186214 in chips)
    Peppe10: posts the ante 400
    cwmack: posts the ante 400
    Cashier50: posts the ante 400
    HDbets: posts the ante 400
    Str8$$$Homey: posts the ante 400
    Pist0nH0nda: posts the ante 400
    SWANNNNN: posts the ante 400
    cheetah1001: posts the ante 400
    Moorman1: posts the ante 400
    HDbets: posts small blind 2000
    Str8$$$Homey: posts big blind 4000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to HDbets [8c 9d]
    Pist0nH0nda: folds
    SWANNNNN: folds
    cheetah1001: folds
    Moorman1: folds
    Peppe10: folds
    cwmack: folds
    Cashier50: calls 4000
    HDbets: calls 2000
    Str8$$$Homey: checks
    *** FLOP *** [7s Qd 6d]
    HDbets: checks
    Str8$$$Homey: checks
    Cashier50: bets 8000
    HDbets: calls 8000
    Str8$$$Homey: folds
    *** TURN *** [7s Qd 6d] [5s]
    HDbets: bets 20000
    Cashier50: calls 20000
    *** RIVER *** [7s Qd 6d 5s] [4d]
    HDbets: bets 17749 and is all-in
    Cashier50: calls 17749
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    HDbets: shows [8c 9d] (a straight, Five to Nine)
    Cashier50: shows [8d 7d] (a flush, Queen high)
    Cashier50 collected 107098 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 107098 | Rake 0
    Board [7s Qd 6d 5s 4d]
    Seat 1: Peppe10 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: cwmack folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: Cashier50 (button) showed [8d 7d] and won (107098) with a flush, Queen high
    Seat 4: HDbets (small blind) showed [8c 9d] and lost with a straight, Five to Nine
    Seat 5: Str8$$$Homey (big blind) folded on the Flop
    Seat 6: Pist0nH0nda folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: SWANNNNN folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: cheetah1001 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: Moorman1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
  2. IHASTHENUTS IHASTHENUTS is offline

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    Sep 24th, 2007 (9/24/2007 4:13am) in reply to greenpepper

    I dont like the stop n go id play the flop more strongly i think, maybe raise the flop and check the turn if he calls you then re-evaluate on the river.
  3. rock3656 rock3656 is offline

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    Sep 24th, 2007 (9/24/2007 8:44am) in reply to IHASTHENUTS

    theres 15600+8000=23600 in the pot when he bets the flop, you got 46k behind i prefer a shove here on the flop or a raise to 28k commiting yourself he is going to call you allin on the flop any ways, but that has nothing to do with your long term equity. Raising the flop and checking the turn to re-evaulate is just terrible once you raise the flop your commited to the hand no matter what. I think his call on the turn is pretty borderline as well. Raise the flop and commit yourself, if he folds you got 70k without having to turn your cards over, that is the best line to take here. You can't do anything on the turn or river differently.
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  4. greenpepper greenpepper is offline

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    Sep 24th, 2007 (9/24/2007 1:45pm) in reply to rock3656

    Your very right, and i knew it too, the long hours got to me, when he limped on the button my first choice was to shove pre flop, 100% he doesnt call, but then i thougt i could outplay him post flop since his play was too predictable...should have gone with my first instinct.

    After the flop i was going to lead, but something ( maybe the 16 hour session ) held me, then when he bet i for some reason thought he would call a raise and i opted for a flat call and fold the turn if i didnt hit, that left me with some life still, then the 5 came and my bet was obviously begging for a call since i put him on a pair and straigth draw ( dunno why ), i agree after that card and the bet i wasnt going anywhere..

    thanks for the answer, its 100% rigth
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