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well i know jackshit but thats pretty standard between the two of those dudes or any of the top playas ....its not like a 5r is part of their regular schedule.
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my bad it wasnt the 5r but still standard imhfo
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Joined: Aug 06Apr 3rd, 2009 (4/3/2009 3:13am) in reply to LVpokerdealer
Pretty sure no1 knows whether Moorman's play is bad or not except for Bel0w who is the only one who has any idea of his 5b/f frequency and probably doesn't even know it himself. I hate to bring up past hands and whatnot but do you not remember the hand Bel0w played vs Kofi at LAPC? I mean lol @ anyone that has commented on this hand having any clue at all (sorry those of you who are my friends).
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Douchebag post + bipolar response = great thread. And btw...Originally Posted by BeL0WaB0Ve
GO DRINK BLEACH YOU PEICE OF FKING SH1TOriginally Posted by Zpaceman
well done chris. this has brightened up an otherwise miserable night (just finished 120th of 27k+ in the 5R for a risible amount of money)
incidentally, regarding the hand, it was very close to the bubble and, as such, is standard versus below's range imo
Not mad at moorman for this hand at all...image is everything and I live/die with my image...shrug
BeL0W
GO EAT NAPLAM YOU PEIEICES OF FKING AHIT AAGGGAGGGGAHHHHHHHH!!!!
Think Moorman1 played this fine btw. What do I know...shrug.
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I felt my original raise size was a little 2 large and looked more like I wanted a fold rather than action. I felt below would pick up on that and 5 bet bluff with a pretty high frequency. At the end of the day its going to take some balls to 6 bet bluff light on the bubble of this thing and he knows that. Also if worse comes 2 the worst and I shove and lose I still have 50 bbs to play with.
Not happy with how I played after that but had some tough spots and that and kept picking wrong option, o well sick sick tourney and sick sick standard, gl to riverman and jagz and ty to everyone who railed me and wished me gl, day off tomorrow then hit the scoop hard on saturday, good night. -
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I dont know how top players like yourself take people posting your hand historys so well lol I'd be lividOriginally Posted by moorman1
I felt my original raise size was a little 2 large and looked more like I wanted a fold rather than action. I felt below would pick up on that and 5 bet bluff with a pretty high frequency. At the end of the day its going to take some balls to 6 bet bluff light on the bubble of this thing and he knows that. Also if worse comes 2 the worst and I shove and lose I still have 50 bbs to play with.
Not happy with how I played after that but had some tough spots and that and kept picking wrong option, o well sick sick tourney and sick sick standard, gl to riverman and jagz and ty to everyone who railed me and wished me gl, day off tomorrow then hit the scoop hard on saturday, good night. -
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kudos to moorman for replying to the thread in an intelligent and meaningful manner ,not like sctrojans who feels like its his job or maybe calling in life to belittle everyone on this forum every time he responds to a thread.
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who is he belittling? hes just saying that its stupid that every1 is chiming in with either it was bad or it was standard or it was ___, and that no one really can just say its good or bad theres so many factors involved.Originally Posted by jstacs
kudos to moorman for replying to the thread in an intelligent and meaningful manner ,not like sctrojans who feels like its his job or maybe calling in life to belittle everyone on this forum every time he responds to a thread.
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and this is the tlb hero fuck, lucky lil kid. what a good play for a pro.but i have seen that kevin play some bs 2
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this is just so wrong.Originally Posted by bef99hwk
Oh come on like anyone has put a worse beat on Below/Moorman ever? Be glad this was actually kind of standard...do you think Moorman is 4bet folding a hand with value like AQo against below? And obv he doesn't want to c/c and c/r OOP with so much value against Below so he takes the route everyone does when they are 22bb with AQo in bb...they jam. UL to below, nice to be Moorman, etc....but standard shit and like Below's never done anything bad???? Not riding Moorman's nuts, hating Below, whatever....just sayin ya know?
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Surely the whole point is that Kevin IS NOt afraid of the bubble therefore has a wider range here thus making AQ a better hand than it would usually be.Originally Posted by andressoprano
As we all know, players in the 500r ( spec Kevin ) are affraid of the bubble.Originally Posted by Zpaceman
well done chris. this has brightened up an otherwise miserable night (just finished 120th of 27k+ in the 5R for a risible amount of money)
incidentally, regarding the hand, it was very close to the bubble and, as such, is standard versus below's range imo -
Exactly, that was my point about it being the bubble which some people who perhaps dont know how below plays took the wrong way. It is in the nature of his game to always be more inclined to bluff for big stacks close to the bubble than at other times.
Originally Posted by pictomtr
Surely the whole point is that Kevin IS NOt afraid of the bubble therefore has a wider range here thus making AQ a better hand than it would usually be.Originally Posted by andressoprano
As we all know, players in the 500r ( spec Kevin ) are affraid of the bubble.Originally Posted by Zpaceman
well done chris. this has brightened up an otherwise miserable night (just finished 120th of 27k+ in the 5R for a risible amount of money)
incidentally, regarding the hand, it was very close to the bubble and, as such, is standard versus below's range imo
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Originally Posted by Zpaceman
Exactly, that was my point about it being the bubble which some people who perhaps dont know how below plays took the wrong way. This situation reminds me of the time I climbed Mt. everest with merely an icepick and a pack of chewing gum as supplies, it was a tough climb but my spirit and determination got me through it, much like Moormans got him through this hand. It is in the nature of his game to always be more inclined to bluff for big stacks close to the bubble than at other times.Originally Posted by pictomtr
Surely the whole point is that Kevin IS NOt afraid of the bubble therefore has a wider range here thus making AQ a better hand than it would usually be.Originally Posted by andressoprano
As we all know, players in the 500r ( spec Kevin ) are affraid of the bubble.Originally Posted by Zpaceman
well done chris. this has brightened up an otherwise miserable night (just finished 120th of 27k+ in the 5R for a risible amount of money)
incidentally, regarding the hand, it was very close to the bubble and, as such, is standard versus below's range imo
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Sigh...
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Even in a tournament where it is likely that the level of play is such that attempting to exploit the bubble may not even be plus EV?Originally Posted by Zpaceman
Exactly, that was my point about it being the bubble which some people who perhaps dont know how below plays took the wrong way. It is in the nature of his game to always be more inclined to bluff for big stacks close to the bubble than at other times.
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Wait, so know you are saying that Below is more likely to bluff because he thinks Moorman is afraid of the bubble, lolololololololololol. Just wow man, you either really suck at the pokers or are just horrible at expressing yourself.Originally Posted by Zpaceman
Exactly, that was my point about it being the bubble which some people who perhaps dont know how below plays took the wrong way. It is in the nature of his game to always be more inclined to bluff for big stacks close to the bubble than at other times.Originally Posted by pictomtr
Surely the whole point is that Kevin IS NOt afraid of the bubble therefore has a wider range here thus making AQ a better hand than it would usually be.Originally Posted by andressoprano
As we all know, players in the 500r ( spec Kevin ) are affraid of the bubble.Originally Posted by Zpaceman
well done chris. this has brightened up an otherwise miserable night (just finished 120th of 27k+ in the 5R for a risible amount of money)
incidentally, regarding the hand, it was very close to the bubble and, as such, is standard versus below's range imo
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No I think the point is he is more likely to apply as much pressure as he can on the bubble...
Originally Posted by CalBandGreat
Wait, so know you are saying that Below is more likely to bluff because he thinks Moorman is afraid of the bubble, lolololololololololol. Just wow man, you either really suck at the pokers or are just horrible at expressing yourself.Originally Posted by Zpaceman
Exactly, that was my point about it being the bubble which some people who perhaps dont know how below plays took the wrong way. It is in the nature of his game to always be more inclined to bluff for big stacks close to the bubble than at other times.Originally Posted by pictomtr
Surely the whole point is that Kevin IS NOt afraid of the bubble therefore has a wider range here thus making AQ a better hand than it would usually be.Originally Posted by andressoprano
As we all know, players in the 500r ( spec Kevin ) are affraid of the bubble.Originally Posted by Zpaceman
well done chris. this has brightened up an otherwise miserable night (just finished 120th of 27k+ in the 5R for a risible amount of money)
incidentally, regarding the hand, it was very close to the bubble and, as such, is standard versus below's range imo
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loooooooooooooooooool Wein wins.Originally Posted by Wein
One of the good guys in poker. I have nothing against him... dunno where all the hate stems from.Originally Posted by comandr_cool
sigh, nice run tho zpaceman.
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the simple fact of the matter is that zpace is nothing but friendly to everyone on here and comments like drink bleach reallly show us who the complete fucking retards are
seriousy all u guys who hate on zpace because thats what other people do are jus the biggest fucking waste's of space imaginable!!!! ur like school kids thats jus do what every1 els does to be accepted or because its the acepted behaviour
i cant stress how fucking patheticly retarded you bitches are!!!! who cares weather u think he good at poker or whatever?? just show some common decency and act like a real man not a pathetic whiny school yard bully that talks trash to massage his ego
i donk even know him or give a fuck about him i just can get over how pathetic you are, yes i mean you below and the rest of lil bully boy retards -
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Standard, LVpokerdealer=Nutswinger...
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Agree with the Zpaceman comments...really not sure where the hatred stems from either. I will admit that sometimes he pushes the wrong buttons and brings it upon himself, however that really isn't an excuse. I would assume it stems from people having bad days/simply being unsuccessful poker players and making themselves feel better by belitting someone else. Oh wellz
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I know where all the Zpaceman hatred comes from, but I'm not telling you.
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i'm amazed at two things 1. how many have defended this play 2. how probably the biggest BB pot in a tourney of 500 or higher in the deepest structured tourney in the history of poker between two of the most successful players in the world has somehow turned into a zpaceman thread
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infact below you should prolly go up to him when u meet him in person and tell him what u think!!!! or would you be scared you get your lil goofy maggot ass slapped about a lil bit
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