explain how this is not cheating and/or multi accounting

 

Originally Posted by MrCasino

WELL HERE IT IS GUYS THE STORY that cause 20 pages..... I was going for supernova elite this year. By slacking off in the early stages of the year i was playing many 12-14 hr days of 10 tables + in sit n goes. Because it was such a huge load i decided to have a friend play on my account a few times to help me earn some points. Stars saw this and "warned me" saying that it is against the rules....well a couple months later I did the same thing n they caught me and suspended me for 3 months * i Know I KNow im an IDIOT* ...so that is why i haven't been on, i was currently suspended for 3 months on mrcasino until dec 12th. Well then I took an account that wasn't being used by a friend "papaharkin" n used it...again like an idiot i posted a hand to share strategy with you guys and then everyone linked me to it and that is that....so yes i was using papaharkin, but i didn't multi account, cheat, i used another alias as I was suspended. make a long story short, now i am banned, and stars is banning evceyrone that was close to me , my brother jason gray, and many friends.....many of you have expressed many bad comments towards me, and in this instance it is well deserved....I am an idiot, broke the rules, and am getting punished for it GREATLY! I did not cheat, multi account, or do anything besides break a couple of rules...I understand if stars wants to ban for that, but to ban me ruins me, and my friends is not right....Maybe you guys dont like me, or dont approve of what i did, but i plea with you all to somehow show some support for my friends that are getting wrongfully banned for being connected to me as playing on stars is a big part of thier income and life...thank you alll

-craig

Stars will do the right thing and give Jason & others who did not cheat in any way their accounts back, I firmly believe that. I do not know what else to say other than I'm sorry that you're going through this as i'm sure with a baby on the way this is tough as shit to take for you. GL with everything.
Sooners

Your friends deserve to be banned if they transferred money to your second account.

 

Originally Posted by MrCasino

like i said im an idiot....but my friends n family have no reason to get banned..they didn't aid me....theyre just associated with me.... its not about whats right n wrong here, because obviously it was wrong of me to jump on another account and play....this is thier life...the way they support themselves

The fact that you are an idiot has been proven beyond any kind of doubt, but you are also clearly a cheater.

Not just for playing annonymously while you were banned, but also for the reason your 1st (2nd, 3rd , who really knows) account was banned to begin with. You had someone play your account to help get you to supernova elite. Doesn't matter how many people have done this same thing on many sites for years, it's still cheating.

You gotta admit craig...this is an epic failure all the way around.
LOL @ the B&S empire's roll. They think you are suspended so they aren't expecting anything from you, only to find out you've been hauling in money on another account and not kicking up any to them. What do you think a pimp does to his hos if he finds out they've been turning tricks on the DL and not paying daddy? They catch the pimp hand!

ban the friends that helped you.
give the friends their accounts back if they did nothing wrong.

Hey p5ers,

I respect Craig's admissions here. I wonder how prevalent this is, and how more of these stories won't mean the death of online poker for Americans. Stars had no choice, they have to appear to be reigning in any cheat, or perceived cheating. They are a business and they are going to do everything they can to protect their business. Everyone has to admit this is bad for poker. Wish everyone could do the right thing and play ethically. A top notch player using an alias to play in my opinion is cheating. That being said, Craig you my friend have a lot of work to get respect back. Just disappointed to here this happened and is probably happening as we post.

Rebelfd

wow, i'm a FTT fan, and an Oregonian, but to be such a degen as to have this happen, seriously man, consider getting some help. Kill the goose that was laying golden eggs for the whole crew? Best of luck in the future to the Team.

 

Originally Posted by sheila12

<H4 class=P5_PostHeader> <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR vAlign=center><TD vAlign=top align=left rowSpan=2> </TD><TD align=left colSpan=2><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>Re:Finally Coming Clean </TD><TD vAlign=center align=right>In reply to </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD align=left>By MrCasino on 09-16-2008 5:18 AM </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></H4> <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR vAlign=top><TD class=P5_PostContent><TABLE height="100%" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=ForumPostContentText>This is a bunch of garbage...of course after a period of time he'll be back on playing...i feel sorry for some of the legit players that got banned, but thats the risk you take when you associate yourself with the "black sheep" of the online world...some money just isn't worth it, you know what i mean? and for dont taze me...>HAHAHAHAHHA young cocky punk got what he deserved...glad I could own you on our last table together...see you in a few years when you're finally old enough to get out of a booster seat and into the live action.....to the rest of us let this be a great example and lesson of morals....do whats right always, even when you think you cant get caught or wont be punished. avoid all temptations espically those that revolve around dirty money.....to all the legit players out there that have never cheated, colluded, multi accounted...keep it up we need more legit people........

Quote from another recent MA scandal, WP SIR

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Haha, this is gold.

You, MrCasino, should be punished. Not your friends. I am in a similar situation where a friends account was hacked into and Stars is accusing another friend of doing it (which obv is not the case). MY Stars account gets frozen now because I am associated with these two accounts. Completely unfair and total bullshit IMO.

 

Originally Posted by WiCane

 

Originally Posted by sheila12

<h4> <table width="100%" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr valign="center"><td rowspan="2" valign="top" align="left"> </td><td colspan="2" align="left"><table width="100%" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td>Re:Finally Coming Clean </td><td valign="center" align="right">In reply to </td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr><td align="left">By MrCasino on 09-16-2008 5:18 AM </td></tr></tbody></table></h4> <table width="100%" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr valign="top"><td><table width="100%" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" height="100%"><tbody><tr><td>This is a bunch of garbage...of course after a period of time he'll be back on playing...i feel sorry for some of the legit players that got banned, but thats the risk you take when you associate yourself with the "black sheep" of the online world...some money just isn't worth it, you know what i mean? and for dont taze me...>HAHAHAHAHHA young cocky punk got what he deserved...glad I could own you on our last table together...see you in a few years when you're finally old enough to get out of a booster seat and into the live action.....to the rest of us let this be a great example and lesson of morals....do whats right always, even when you think you cant get caught or wont be punished. avoid all temptations espically those that revolve around dirty money.....to all the legit players out there that have never cheated, colluded, multi accounted...keep it up we need more legit people........

Quote from another recent MA scandal, WP SIR

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Haha, this is gold.

Wow.

 

Originally Posted by sheila12

<h4><table width="100%" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr valign="middle"><td rowspan="2" valign="top" align="left"> </td><td colspan="2" align="left"><table width="100%" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td>Re:Finally Coming Clean </td><td valign="middle" align="right">In reply to </td></tr></tbody></table> </td></tr><tr><td align="left">By MrCasino on 09-16-2008 5:18 AM </td></tr></tbody></table> </h4> <table width="100%" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr valign="top"><td><table width="100%" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" height="100%"><tbody><tr><td>This is a bunch of garbage...of course after a period of time he'll be back on playing...i feel sorry for some of the legit players that got banned, but thats the risk you take when you associate yourself with the "black sheep" of the online world...some money just isn't worth it, you know what i mean? and for dont taze me...>HAHAHAHAHHA young cocky punk got what he deserved...glad I could own you on our last table together...see you in a few years when you're finally old enough to get out of a booster seat and into the live action.....to the rest of us let this be a great example and lesson of morals....do whats right always, even when you think you cant get caught or wont be punished. avoid all temptations espically those that revolve around dirty money.....to all the legit players out there that have never cheated, colluded, multi accounted...keep it up we need more legit people........

Quote from another recent MA scandal, WP SIR

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I just LOL'D and puked all at the same time. What a hypocrite.

It's a good thing they have the internet so all of you dishonest people can cheat, otherwise you'd get the shit kicked out of you. What a bunch of losers. Please try to cheat people while you're sitting at a table with them, and please call them names and berate them in person...so many internet tough guys!!!

 

Originally Posted by sheila12

<H4 class=P5_PostHeader> <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR vAlign=center><TD vAlign=top align=left rowSpan=2> </TD><TD align=left colSpan=2><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>Re:Finally Coming Clean </TD><TD vAlign=center align=right>In reply to </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD align=left>By MrCasino on 09-16-2008 5:18 AM </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></H4> <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR vAlign=top><TD class=P5_PostContent><TABLE height="100%" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=ForumPostContentText>This is a bunch of garbage...of course after a period of time he'll be back on playing...i feel sorry for some of the legit players that got banned, but thats the risk you take when you associate yourself with the "black sheep" of the online world...some money just isn't worth it, you know what i mean? and for dont taze me...>HAHAHAHAHHA young cocky punk got what he deserved...glad I could own you on our last table together...see you in a few years when you're finally old enough to get out of a booster seat and into the live action.....to the rest of us let this be a great example and lesson of morals....do whats right always, even when you think you cant get caught or wont be punished. avoid all temptations espically those that revolve around dirty money.....to all the legit players out there that have never cheated, colluded, multi accounted...keep it up we need more legit people........

Quote from another recent MA scandal, WP SIR

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OHHHHHHHHHHH SNAP!!!!!!

 

Originally Posted by SonOfTone

"but i plea with you all to somehow show some support for my friends that are getting wrongfully banned"

they knew u were doing it = all cheaters

WP STARS

lol...so if your brother was multiaccounting, you'd out him?...i dont know if id be able to do that tbh...so i disagree with this...just wait til the facts come out and the action stars takes...im sure they'll be fair

 

Originally Posted by romy99

 

Originally Posted by orgnalsooners

 

Originally Posted by MrCasino

WELL HERE IT IS GUYS THE STORY that cause 20 pages..... I was going for supernova elite this year. By slacking off in the early stages of the year i was playing many 12-14 hr days of 10 tables + in sit n goes. Because it was such a huge load i decided to have a friend play on my account a few times to help me earn some points. Stars saw this and "warned me" saying that it is against the rules....well a couple months later I did the same thing n they caught me and suspended me for 3 months * i Know I KNow im an IDIOT* ...so that is why i haven't been on, i was currently suspended for 3 months on mrcasino until dec 12th. Well then I took an account that wasn't being used by a friend "papaharkin" n used it...again like an idiot i posted a hand to share strategy with you guys and then everyone linked me to it and that is that....so yes i was using papaharkin, but i didn't multi account, cheat, i used another alias as I was suspended. make a long story short, now i am banned, and stars is banning evceyrone that was close to me , my brother jason gray, and many friends.....many of you have expressed many bad comments towards me, and in this instance it is well deserved....I am an idiot, broke the rules, and am getting punished for it GREATLY! I did not cheat, multi account, or do anything besides break a couple of rules...I understand if stars wants to ban for that, but to ban me ruins me, and my friends is not right....Maybe you guys dont like me, or dont approve of what i did, but i plea with you all to somehow show some support for my friends that are getting wrongfully banned for being connected to me as playing on stars is a big part of thier income and life...thank you alll

-craig

Stars will do the right thing and give Jason & others who did not cheat in any way their accounts back, I firmly believe that. I do not know what else to say other than I'm sorry that you're going through this as i'm sure with a baby on the way this is tough as shit to take for you. GL with everything.
Sooners

Actually this is a good thing. Kid might grow up with a responsible dad instead of a scumbag.

IMO that's a pretty bad statement. If anyone who makes mistakes is a shitty parent then god help us all.