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Ok i was curious on this so I decided to look into it a little further. Things werent adding up with the text being different within the pokerstars emails he recieved ....so i checked when he created his acoount and it was new ....i looked at what other post he replied to and found this one....notice his aim screenname
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=6 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>Re(1): Wanted: Winning mid stakes MTT players who want to improve their game (with Update)
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</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>I would love to talk to you and share some perspective. I am relatively inexperienced in mtts. I have made 65k the past 6 months playing primarily heads up. However, of the few tournaments I have played I had a cash of $5400 in a 25k guarantee tournament this week. My aim is Knapp2themax </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
So I went to www.google.com and type in Knapp2themax and found a chat log on flopturnriver.com that was kinda messed up but had this screenname in there http://www.flopturnriver.com/poker-c...214000000.html
Feel free to read it or hit ctrl f and find that screen name..notice this chat takes place exactly a year ago since he posted it...kinda wierd...then they go on to talk about how this guy scammed him out of some money and stuff....so his name on there was killeraces......so i go to google and type in killeraces poker and found all kinds of stuff on this killeraces guy scamming people out of money and crap.....so im pretty sure this guy was involved in this crap........you can dig some more if you want.... i will be.... i just wanted to get this out to everyone so they could se for themselves....i will be adding more stuff.....pretty sure this is the same guy we are talking about.....EXPOSED!!!! -
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</TD><TD>Re(4): Unethical/Illegal Seizing of Funds by Pokerstars
by TrafficKing on 12/16/2007 23:35 </TD><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD><NOBR>
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</TD><TD>Re(5): Unethical/Illegal Seizing of Funds by Pokerstars
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<TABLE cellPadding=2 border=0 celspacing="0"><TBODY><TR><TD>heres is a very incrimidating chat log i found with his aim named in there
http://forum.neverbeg.com/showthread.php?t=4361 </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
I dont want anyone to get scammed by this guy if he stars asking for money because his money got seized......if it did then good for pokerstars if ....or it could all be made it to get someone to send him some more money.....read on him first guys -
cover your tracks before you do something stupid like this toxic... or at least be truthful, you're unethical and immoral. ijot...
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what kind of ijot doesn't even change his account names?
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The kind of idiot that scams honest people for cash.
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well yea, but you could potentially be smart and a loser scammer
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apparently that guy =P the thing that gets me is did he think that he wasn't going to get caught? he must be dumb because he had different fonts for his e-mails, and his story just didn't add up... come on now, 4 different people that owed him money but were really "Justin Smith" obv. this guy is a n00b scammer...
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So do you think what I found adds up to something......looks to me like he has been scamming change for a lil while now and I truely belive that he is directly involved with the Justin Smith case.....maybe hes just looking for a way out of it since he got caught
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what makes no sense to me is if he knew he was guilty of these charges, why put it on p5, that's just plain stupid, someone's going to go and look into it, i.e. you :)
which i think a little sleuthing around earns you poker detective of the year eh eh? haha -
Go fuck yourself Toxic
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thank you curtass,
great work
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def 1000% agreed wp
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http://www.pocketfives.com/10632DED-...aspxObligatory link to the thread this is referencing. I think all posts that reference another thread should include this for the benefit of people who get into the action a couple days late.
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There is no 100% solid evidence......his name is brought up into scams from over a year ago from massive amounts of people.....granted that is hersay and whatnot.....but why would massive amounts of people say the this guy scammed them out of money.....then the guy posted his screen name and posted something on here that has a 2007 date about him being involved into the justin smith case....now isnt it ironic that his name is brought up from over a year ago to dates all the way to the present involving a scam.....it doesnt add up man........hmmmm seems a lil strange to me
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LoL @ inissint asking for evidence.......ya ok, i guess its every day that a group of scammers decide out of the goodness of their heart to repay a loan.
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Has anyone noticed that for all the posts toxic is putting in his own post, he has not refuted on this post? Obv. scammer.
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well he can't
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please do not bash inissint...he is a well respected poker player....and he just asked for a summary..he is a guest pro at pokerxfactor...and i have a lot of respect for him....he is right in a way....there is no 100% solid evidence.......just something is really fishy.....this thread was started to weed through what i have found.....
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I agree with you 100% inissit......i am willing to bet though he has accounts on fulltilt and other poker sites......I wonder if there is a way to find this out.......i bet if u dig a lil deeper u can find something with his screen names on it....and i also agree with u about all the post on here about potential scammers....and this one here just doesnt add up
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LoL....
ffbigfoot: ;p
ffbigfoot: where is my 11 dollars you owe me
killersaces21: where is my 52
ffbigfoot: you stole my money
ffbigfoot: dont bullshit me
killersaces21: no you took my and your making shit up
ffbigfoot: why are u doing this
killersaces21: wtf
ffbigfoot: u never sent me anything then i gave u 11on stars on good faith
ffbigfoot: and u screwed me
killersaces21: i did too
killersaces21: and you screwed me
killersaces21: out of 52
ffbigfoot: dont every come back to ajpoker you piece of sh$t
killersaces21: i will to get my money you owe me
ffbigfoot: your a f$%king scammer and like 30other people agree with me
killersaces21: your a scammer
ffbigfoot: sned me my 11 dolalrs back on stars
ffbigfoot: now
killersaces21: send my 65 back anss i will
ffbigfoot: how can i when you never sent it
killersaces21: yes i did
ffbigfoot: not to me, maybe to your other personality
killersaces21: haha
killersaces21: yes to you
killersaces21: give me my money you scammer
ffbigfoot: what is the transaction number then
killersaces21: ill look
ffbigfoot: and what is your Absolute poker name then that you sent it from
ffbigfoot: and what is the name you sent it to
killersaces21: its says 0 as transaction
killersaces21 signed off at 2:39:50 PM.
ffbigfoot: yea as in 0 you sent me
Previous message was not received by killersaces21 because of error: User killersaces21 is not available.
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i dont know if killeraces was his current name cause i just read some stuff killeraces posted back in 06 saying 2 of his accounts got banned due to collusion.....yeah this dude is definetly a scammer
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How can someone just ignore these accusations??? (IMO definitely guilty as charged)
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i did found out 3 screen names this killeraces has had with stars in the past that got banned for colluding....i am at my work computer so I dont have the names on this computer they are at home.....but if killeraces has the new aim screen name of name Knapp2themax like they say in the other forums.....killeraces = Knapp2themax who equals all the past screen names that I found that were banned.......
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'ie' is an acronym for the latin 'id est' which means 'that is'
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yeah i felt his whole story was all made up when he was confronted about the 06 date later in the thread and claimed it was just a misedit when he was copying and pasting coz he only opened a stars account 3 weeks ago... but earlier in the thread and in his correspondence with pstars he said that he loaned these people money very long ago on stars and doesn't remember the amounts or the transactions.. wtf?! and all the mistypes from stars support, don't buy that shit.
i woulda replied to that thread yesterday but i was busy multitabling.
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