1. I really think i fked up. I had a chance to run deep in this tourn; i was in the bb, the other player in the sb. He had been playing tight/passive for most of the tourn, but in the past few obits, he had begun to open his game. Please review the hand, as i am hating life today over it. I am confused as to if i did the right thing, or if i should have gotten away from the hand. Right now, i am thinking i should have folded, since i didnt full up, and he was showing me he was mega strong/or a full bluff. I still would have had a workable stack if i folded:

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    PokerStars Game #35463462266: Tournament #213228522, $8.00+$0.80 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIII (200/400) - 2009/11/17 0:08:22 ET
    Table '213228522 1' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: Tmph01 (9563 in chips)
    Seat 2: KO1u0 (10295 in chips)
    Seat 3: trevorek7 (10735 in chips)
    Seat 4: SuperGloo (5913 in chips)
    Seat 5: JeromeBender (7630 in chips)
    Seat 6: Disjuntor (15124 in chips)
    Tmph01: posts the ante 50
    KO1u0: posts the ante 50
    trevorek7: posts the ante 50
    SuperGloo: posts the ante 50
    JeromeBender: posts the ante 50
    Disjuntor: posts the ante 50
    Tmph01: posts small blind 200
    KO1u0: posts big blind 400
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to KO1u0 [7s Ks]
    trevorek7: folds
    SuperGloo: folds
    JeromeBender: folds
    Disjuntor: folds
    Tmph01: calls 200
    KO1u0: checks
    *** FLOP *** [5h Kh Ah]
    Tmph01: checks
    KO1u0: bets 650
    Tmph01: calls 650
    *** TURN *** [5h Kh Ah] [Kd]
    Tmph01: checks
    KO1u0: bets 650
    Tmph01: calls 650
    *** RIVER *** [5h Kh Ah Kd] [Tc]
    Tmph01: bets 7813 and is all-in
    KO1u0: calls 7813
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Tmph01: shows [As Ac] (a full house, Aces full of Kings)
    KO1u0: shows [7s Ks] (three of a kind, Kings)
    Tmph01 collected 19326 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 19326 | Rake 0
    Board [5h Kh Ah Kd Tc]
    Seat 1: Tmph01 (small blind) showed [As Ac] and won (19326) with a full house, Aces full of Kings
    Seat 2: KO1u0 (big blind) showed [7s Ks] and lost with three of a kind, Kings
    Seat 3: trevorek7 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: SuperGloo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: JeromeBender folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: Disjuntor (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

    Thanks again :)
  2. I'd probably have let it go on the flop. You didn't have a heart or an ace, so why mess around there? At best, you're barely ahead. Plus, you avoid falling into the sort of trap you fell into.

    There's no way you could have anticipated that guy limping with AA.
  3. Thanks, Allin,

    You know, im either a total moron, or was totally caught up in the blinds vs. blinds thing.

    In the back of my head, im thinking, he's in the small blind, no way can he have a hand :)

    yeah right.

    I totally discounted the hearts, to be honest, my mind would not even let me figure them into the equation. I didnt think he would limp with aa or ak, but i should have figured him for the case k with a better kicker, or worse, k with one of the two other random cards (again, sb) and he filled up, i didnt.

    I definitely should have let it go. Maybe one of these days, i will learn :)

    Thanks again.
    Thread Starter
  4. I'm with allen here. Also one other point I hate just checking when there is no action and small blind limps. Why not raise pre if your going to see the flop. Most of the time you take down the pot. Pretty sure most people that are limping there ace's there are going to reraise your bet. Then you just let your hand go there and save a ton of money. I guess it is possible he flats your bet, but then again you can get away on the flop. So I would have raised pre folded to reraise and got away from the flop
  5. Thanks, good advice there. I should have raised his limp, especially since for most of our playing time together, he was rather passive. He definitely would have folded a marginal hand, most prob re-raised a monster, at which time i would have tossed my k-x suited junk. Don't think he would have flatted tha aces, so i would have been safe.

    Thanks again :)
    Thread Starter
  6.  
    Originally Posted by KO1u0 View Post


    You know, im either a total moron, or was totally caught up in the blinds vs. blinds thing.

    In the back of my head, im thinking, he's in the small blind, no way can he have a hand :)

    I know what you mean. I've fallen into that trap plenty of times myself, and once that K hits on the turn you're trapped. Doesn't matter that he could have a better king, or a flush... and on the river, I can still disregard that straight, because obviously he's just bluffing with a busted flush draw and third pair.

    I've gotten caught up in those fights myself plenty of times, I'm just getting to where I treat a SB v BB hand with the same respect as a regular hand, and let my marginal holdings go.

    Good luck, glad we could offer some support!
  7. I wouldn't worry about it too much man. You only had ~25 blinds, so I wouldn't sweat.
  8.  
    Originally Posted by KO1u0 View Post

    I really think i fked up. I had a chance to run deep in this tourn; i was in the bb, the other player in the sb. He had been playing tight/passive for most of the tourn, but in the past few obits, he had begun to open his game. Please review the hand, as i am hating life today over it. I am confused as to if i did the right thing, or if i should have gotten away from the hand. Right now, i am thinking i should have folded, since i didnt full up, and he was showing me he was mega strong/or a full bluff. I still would have had a workable stack if i folded:

    *********** # 2 **************
    PokerStars Game #35463462266: Tournament #213228522, $8.00+$0.80 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIII (200/400) - 2009/11/17 0:08:22 ET
    Table '213228522 1' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: Tmph01 (9563 in chips)
    Seat 2: KO1u0 (10295 in chips)
    Seat 3: trevorek7 (10735 in chips)
    Seat 4: SuperGloo (5913 in chips)
    Seat 5: JeromeBender (7630 in chips)
    Seat 6: Disjuntor (15124 in chips)
    Tmph01: posts the ante 50
    KO1u0: posts the ante 50
    trevorek7: posts the ante 50
    SuperGloo: posts the ante 50
    JeromeBender: posts the ante 50
    Disjuntor: posts the ante 50
    Tmph01: posts small blind 200
    KO1u0: posts big blind 400
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to KO1u0 [7s Ks]
    trevorek7: folds
    SuperGloo: folds
    JeromeBender: folds
    Disjuntor: folds
    Tmph01: calls 200
    KO1u0: checks
    *** FLOP *** [5h Kh Ah]
    Tmph01: checks
    KO1u0: bets 650
    Tmph01: calls 650
    *** TURN *** [5h Kh Ah] [Kd]
    Tmph01: checks
    KO1u0: bets 650
    Tmph01: calls 650
    *** RIVER *** [5h Kh Ah Kd] [Tc]
    Tmph01: bets 7813 and is all-in
    KO1u0: calls 7813
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Tmph01: shows [As Ac] (a full house, Aces full of Kings)
    KO1u0: shows [7s Ks] (three of a kind, Kings)
    Tmph01 collected 19326 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 19326 | Rake 0
    Board [5h Kh Ah Kd Tc]
    Seat 1: Tmph01 (small blind) showed [As Ac] and won (19326) with a full house, Aces full of Kings
    Seat 2: KO1u0 (big blind) showed [7s Ks] and lost with three of a kind, Kings
    Seat 3: trevorek7 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: SuperGloo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: JeromeBender folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: Disjuntor (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

    Thanks again :)

    i dont like raising pre really unless you just ship it, cause chances are hes never calling..if you raise and he flats it just puts you in an awkward spot..i like the check behind.. i hate betting the flop though, i almost always check behind..you are either way ahead or way behind and you could easiley get checked raised with the q of hearts or another heart and you have to fold the best hand.. so i check behind for pot control..as played i probably go broke..