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My Donk Hand of the Night!!! what is the best way to play this hand....this is obv the worst.

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  1. HammerU HammerU is offline

    Wethersfield, CT
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    Dec 10th, 2008 (12/10/2008 3:52am)

    I def morphed into a donkey during this hand.

    Seeing that I played the hand awful, my question is what is my plan for the turn here with no reads as I was just moved to this table?

    1) Take a stab and fold to a reraise or river bet? If so how much?
    2) Check call and re-evaluate on the river at the board would seem tough for him to bluff at without having me
    3) Check Fold???

    Arg...I didn't think he would check behind an ace here and I think a flush would be very unlikely...but thinking about it I really like his check behind because he is either way behind or way ahead (and look what he got me to do .

    pokerstars Game #22782833439: Tournament #125324947, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level XIX (750/1500) - 2008/12/10 1:15:24 ET
    Table '125324947 16' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: nicogreg (43072 in chips)
    Seat 2: chaucerchick (23909 in chips)
    Seat 3: JBjedi (23898 in chips) is sitting out
    Seat 4: HammerU173 (25269 in chips)
    Seat 5: Rogzow (82708 in chips)
    Seat 6: dedhed101 (13251 in chips)
    Seat 7: Patriote18 (22084 in chips)
    Seat 8: SASHIK123 (23755 in chips)
    Seat 9: have nevr 1 (22484 in chips)
    nicogreg: posts the ante 175
    chaucerchick: posts the ante 175
    JBjedi: posts the ante 175
    HammerU173: posts the ante 175
    Rogzow: posts the ante 175
    dedhed101: posts the ante 175
    Patriote18: posts the ante 175
    SASHIK123: posts the ante 175
    have nevr 1: posts the ante 175
    chaucerchick: posts small blind 750
    JBjedi: posts big blind 1500
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to HammerU173 [9h 9d]
    HammerU173: raises 2750 to 4250
    Rogzow: folds
    dedhed101: folds
    Patriote18: folds
    SASHIK123: folds
    have nevr 1: folds
    nicogreg: calls 4250
    chaucerchick: folds
    JBjedi: folds
    *** FLOP *** [4s 5s Ah]
    HammerU173: checks
    nicogreg: checks
    *** TURN *** [4s 5s Ah] [As]
    HammerU173: bets 20844 and is all-in
    nicogreg: calls 20844
    *** RIVER *** [4s 5s Ah As] [2d]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    HammerU173: shows [9h 9d] (two pair, Aces and Nines)
    nicogreg: shows [Ad Jd] (three of a kind, Aces)
    nicogreg collected 54013 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 54013 | Rake 0
    Board [4s 5s Ah As 2d]
    Seat 1: nicogreg (button) showed [Ad Jd] and won (54013) with three of a kind, Aces
    Seat 2: chaucerchick (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 3: JBjedi (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 4: HammerU173 showed [9h 9d] and lost with two pair, Aces and Nines
    Seat 5: Rogzow folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: dedhed101 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: Patriote18 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: SASHIK123 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: have nevr 1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
     
  2. nw25th nw25th is offline

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    Dec 10th, 2008 (12/10/2008 8:34am) in reply to HammerU

    this is just spewtacular!
  3. sean614 sean614 is offline

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    Dec 10th, 2008 (12/10/2008 9:36am) in reply to HammerU

    so you shoved $20,844 into a $12,325 chip pot on the turn?
  4. Phi Phi is offline aka tennisee

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    Dec 10th, 2008 (12/10/2008 9:42am) in reply to HammerU

    Don't listen to the haters.

    This is a standard shove imo!

    Keep chuggin along buddy!
  5. Panamatony Panamatony is offline

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    Dec 10th, 2008 (12/10/2008 9:42am) in reply to sean614

    bet/fold flop. shut down if he flats. Also shoving pre is fine too
     
  6. FooteLong FooteLong is offline

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    Dec 10th, 2008 (12/10/2008 9:49am) in reply to Panamatony

    I'm a full time donk, but I think I bet out on the flop 4-5K and fold to raise, check down the rest of the way if he calls the flop bet.
  7. STR8KL0WNIN STR8KL0WNIN is offline

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    Dec 10th, 2008 (12/10/2008 10:26am) in reply to HammerU

    with just over 15 bb's, consider open push AK/99+ ?
  8. lordxixor101 lordxixor101 is offline

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    Dec 10th, 2008 (12/10/2008 10:27am) in reply to HammerU

    I don't like your plan here. This is a drawing board, and you are either way ahead or behind. Remember, that ace is a scare card to you, it's scary to him for a lot of hands, including KQ, etc. Giving him a free card isn't doing anything for you.

    From his vantage point, you probably aren't checking the flush draw. So, either your check/folding or your check raising him. Let him play.

    Turn card makes your life easy. You were check/folding the flop there. Now the flush hit, and another ace. I might bet out light there (typical c-bet of 5k or so), but then I'm bailing. You might even want to check/fold this. But, his check and the 2nd ace hitting was a death card. You figure your ahead, so you push, and your dead.

    I really think you misplayed the flop. C-betting the flop saves you from this turn. Even if he flats you on the flop, the flush hitting on the turn likely saves you. He has you beat then.
  9. rivverkiller rivverkiller is online now

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    Dec 10th, 2008 (12/10/2008 7:27pm) in reply to lordxixor101

    Shove pre, 99 is too tough to play oop with only 15 bb's.
     
  10. preezie preezie is offline

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    Dec 10th, 2008 (12/10/2008 7:43pm) in reply to Phi

     
    Originally Posted by PhiAlphaMTSU View Post

    Don't listen to the haters.

    This is a standard shove imo!

    Keep chuggin along buddy!

    beer all over my screen.. thx :(
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