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In one of the posts recently there was a chart showing the stats of the top 100 players, most are about the same, with the exception of a few with a big Sunday win. I got curious how I compared.
My stats since 2005:
216 MTTs 39 cashes 13 FTs 7 Top 3s and 5 wins
I'm no Annette, but I'm good enough to win most MTTs I enter.
I've won the $50 + $5 freezeout on Stars twice, a $30 +$3 DS on Tilt, a $2 rebuy on Tilt and a few others.
The problem is, every time I step up and play a tourney with a larger buy-in, and try to win some money that can actually make a dent to my net worth, I can't make it happen. I've played the $300 + $20 on Stars twice, the $150 + $12 on Stars once, the $200 + $16 three times on Stars and twice on Tilt. I've even staked a friend of mine (good player, but a bit tight) in the Sunday Million 4 more times after winning sattelites, because I won't play poker on Sundays during football season.
Nothing, nada, nil, NOT EVEN A CASH, I've never cashed once in a MTT with a buy in over $100
Today I played the $150 + $12 on Tilt, and obv couldn't beat the JJ of a top 10 ranked player with my AK, for all of his chips and half of mine, for a top 5 stack with 40 left. Both times in the Stars $300 +$20 I got my money in with AQ on a Q high flop vs. a slowplayed KK, and I can't even think about how bad I ran on those Sundays because it will make me puke.
When will I break through, and did most of the top players go through the same type of thing before their 1st big score?
Sorry for venting, but I'm sure I'm not the only small timer that thinks he's one big win away from making a splash in the online MTT world. -
This is why I don't even play big MTTs. Since huge amounts of time AND luck are involved, I don't think it's worth it. 45 man games are as far as I go.
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I was talking in terms of %s. I think my cash, FT, and win rate compare pretty favorably against most GOOD (not elite) tourney players. I fully understand that the sample size is small, but I have kids and a business, so that's all I have time for.
With that said I don't recall being in a hand, or at the table, with any of the ranked players and not known where I was in a hand, or what the right play was. I have the utmost respect for all of the ranked players, but I don't think their edge is that big that I don't belong at any of their tables at any given time.
That's where the frustration comes from, the belief that I can play, but just can't win a big enough MTT to play in the bigger buy in tournies on a more regular basis.
In time hopefully. -
ok but understand this, about 98% of micro stakes players think they just need that one big score to get them going then they can start cashin big at the bigger tournies, everyone thinks they are good, and i disagree with your statement of not knowing where you were in a hand, i believe that everyone comes across situations where they are totally lost in a hand.
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lol, 2nd that in fact a sn8wman i know lost me in a hand a couple weeks ago and i did what i usually do when i'm lost in hand, i shoved into top two aq drawing to 3 outs on the turn i think.
I'm probably more of a cash game player than a tourney player so i'm pretty used to seeing a ton of flops but i doubt there are many days in my life when i'm not lost in a hand. I mean that's what poker is, it's a game that is essentially played blindfolded. The best players are the ones that make the best and/or the worst out of situations they are lost.
For instance let's say i raise utg+2 with aqs and snwman calls from the button . Flop comes kq5 with two clubs and i lead out 2/3 of pot and sn8wman smooth calls it. we both have M of 12. On the turn the 9of diamond hits. you check fold? are you ahead? -
Hes played 239 and cashed in 39....is that bad? 1/6th of the time he cashes and he says hes been deep in alot. Is that really bad? i thought the badasses cash in much less than that i might be mistaken
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I wasn't aware that anyone that doesn't play in all of the $100 rebuys is considered a micro-stakes player.
I'm just as likely to buy into a WPT prelim as I am to play a $5 freezeout. Money isn't the issue. Someday you'll be married and understand that, "Honey, I just deposited $20,000 on an online poker site so I can play with Johnny Bax", will go over like an SS uniform at a Bar Mitzvah. It's also a personal goal, I want to earn my seat in the bigger buy-ins by winning the money.
It's also hard to practice proper bankroll management when 1st prize in the smaller tournies add up to about a days work. Every time I've tried the bankroll thing, I've said to myself, "What the fuck am I doing playing for hours trying to win $xxx, when I make that much in a day."
So I guess I'll just deposit, build, take a shot, and repeat until that big score comes.
Just because every unknown player thinks they are good, it doesn't mean they are all wrong. -
To answer your question about not wining the big one. I woudl say it all comes down to variance you say youve played 6 big buyin multis. I would bet you would be hard to find 1 top player that can go deep in these 1 of 6 times. If you have the confidence and the skill you just have to be patient and eventually you will get that big score. But complaining about not haveing alarge score after only 6 tries is crazy.
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Poker is a sick game, and online the big score has eluded me for my entire career. I have many cashes between 5k-19k, and one for 33k, but the 100k+ can not be found. You can play your best game, but when it comes down to it, we are really just playing %'s. Every time you flip a hand over preflop, there is usually atleast a 20% chance your going to lose.
I know personally that I took 11th and 12th in the stars million and 11th in a plhe WCOOP event, losing two of those with aces allin preflop, I win those hands, I may have 200k more in my pocket, but either way it doesnt matter, because its just math probabilities I have no control over.
Just keep getting your cards in the best you can, stay focused on what you can control, don't dwell on what you can not, especially if you are not going to be learning anything from it. Even though poker results and sucess are judged on how much money you have won, it is important not to get to caught up in short term results. -
hey gank what is short term IYO can it be up to 7 months if you've played for 5 years?
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Gank was down 10k in tournesy online on pokerstars last i looked, dont listen to him first off
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The big cash, doesn't mean you're a great player. Sometimes the cards fall correctly, you avoid the bad situations and pick the right spots.
I know that in my case I never played better than I did that day in the Full Tilt 750K guarantee. I got to the final table last in chips (bad beat right before final table, was 2nd with 10 to go) and ended up 2nd.
Just last Wednesday in the Stars $320 got all my chips in the middle pre flop with AA vs. KK guy flopped a K, that doesn't mean I played badly just happened to lose one of those 19 times out of 100. It happens! Played the hand as well as I could just got unlucky. Sometimes you lose no matter what you do. -
Gank actually has an unreal high rate of FTs however he is just not closing out enough of those and has way to many 3rds and 2nds compared to 1sts.
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yea i always kinda keep saying this about the sunday 215s....if i keep playing them eventually ill run hot and win like 50k!!! until then i keep checking the db and seeing my -15-20k in them. But for real i think i won a 109 when i hardly knew hand value, so obviously ull get a decent score eventually if you play enough of them! GL
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I second that. I made a FT in the S Million and MANY, MUCH BETTER players than me didn't. How many coinflips in a row can you win? On the other hand, in the 20K guaranteed (100+9) freezeout with 200-300 players the better players are on top consistently.
Your stats sound impressive. Care to back them up? No user names? -
So you've played what, 10 big buy ins? Way WAAAAAAY too small of a sample to worry about. Your cash rate is about 18%, so not cashing in 10 specific mtts is not a cause for concern. Keep swinging.
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I have a fair amount of FTs in my life.. yet my biggest cash ever was 9k.. and that was over 2 years ago. I look at some peoples stats and they have 1 fluke tourney for like 50k.. yet I play TONS of tournies and that big score is definately elusive for me:(.. someday plz.
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I have a fair amount of FTs in my life.. yet my biggest cash ever was 9k.. and that was over 2 years ago. I look at some peoples stats and they have 1 fluke tourney for like 50k.. yet I play TONS of tournies and that big score is definately elusive for me:(.. someday plz
LOL, this is me. I won 80k in two weeks and haven't done squat since. -
maybe you should analyze your strat in the later stages. cant all be down to bad luck.
i came 9th 10th and 11th in 100$ multis last week, and i think i made errors in the later stages in all 3. espescially when i finished 9th, because i played tight on th Ft bubble because i wanted to make the FT.
it's like old thomas jefferson says
"i'm a great believer in luck, and i find the harder i work, the more i have of it." -
Play more. Complain less.
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239 MTT's is not a big enough sample size. Your bigger buyin tourneys, the $100's+, you have not played enough to put any significance into your non-cash streak.
Your numbers are OK, but I wouldn't count on them portraying any significance to accurate stats for you. That said, your numbers <span>are </span>good and definitely better than the average player. Keep playing your game and get back to us in like 1000+ MTT's. Gl to you sir. -
I have had very similar problems, winning several 20 and 30 dollar mtts but NEVER taken down a 50 or 100, though several 2nds. i believe alot of it is psychological and alot of it is, as many have mentioned, that you have to play ALOT. i really dont play all that much as i am lazy and when i make money i just sit on it and use it until i need money again.
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Yesterday in the $100 + $9 multi on Tilt ($50,000 guaranteed)
UTG makes standard raise at 50/100
MP flat calls
Holding 2
2
in BB, call and go to the flop. I have about $3,100 behind.
2
6
7
I bet 3/4 of the pot ($750 into a $950 pot)
UTG shoves (has me covered)
MP calls (has me covered)
I call
UTG- K
K
MP- A
J
GG on turn K
or river diamond. Who wants 100+ BBs anyway?
But I obv final tabled a $20 90 man sit 'n go. LOL, I'll keep trying. -
I guess having several great poker minds chime in with advice on what basically boils down to a bad beat post didn't get the message through to you, tough breaks happen, posting them here and dwelling on them will not make it better, very few people on this forum will have sympathy for you because we all take them often enough. You said money isn't the issue, so WTF? You have a family and a business, why are you dwelling on tough breaks in a 100$ multi? Eventually you will win one, regardless of your skill level. GL, please post bad beats in the bad beat section.
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dont forget: to get to the money ( lets say top 10% of players) is BIG different to be in the top 3%... maybe you need some balls when you around and try to WIN, not just play for sure...
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