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Need advice so I don't make the same mistake again

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  1. garytheone garytheone is offline

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    Mar 17th, 2008 (3/17/2008 1:14pm)

    You have 63 suited in the BB in a unraised pot the flop comes down KJ9 all suited all the same as what you have, theres two players who limped in, one is playing a lot of hands and the other is a good tight player, you decide to bet out (about half the pot) the loose player calls and the tight player raises to 4x your bet, what do you do next?? The tight player has about 2500 chips left after his raise and the loose player has you both covered with about 6000 you have about 4800 after your bet
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    Mar 17th, 2008 (3/17/2008 1:21pm) in reply to garytheone

    You're supposed to raise all in and go broke when another same-suit card comes out and counterfeits you to big stack's ace. Seriously. I screwed up a SNG the other day with Q8c, flopped the flush and just called the flop raise and another club came out and I lost to the guy holding the ace.

    It would've played out the same had I gone all in, I'm sure he would've called, but I still played it wrong. I say you look at the flopped flush as a gift and take your 67% chance that it holds.
  3. MYBLUEDOG MYBLUEDOG is offline

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    Mar 17th, 2008 (3/17/2008 1:22pm) in reply to garytheone

    First thing you do is take you hand off the mouse. Then you think for a few seconds while you click the time button.

    Then you count the cards in the suit that have you beat. You are either (a) slightly ahead. or (b) way behind. If you were the tight player, what would you be raisiing with?

    Guess what tight players bet with? The nuts, probably or a draw to the nuts.

    Your best option in this situation: Fold
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    Mar 17th, 2008 (3/17/2008 1:25pm) in reply to MYBLUEDOG

    The tight player though was fairly short stacked so I was ready to take my chances against him....
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  5. lordxixor101 lordxixor101 is offline

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    Mar 17th, 2008 (3/17/2008 4:02pm) in reply to MYBLUEDOG

    I can't agree with bluedog here at all.

    Sure, you might be way behind. One thing I've been seeing lately is that most people don't assume you have the flush right now. 2 pair or a set rarely are going to fold in these spots, but they don't want to risk the fourth suited card hititng (they are fearing the same as you here).

    The odds are not very strong that you flopped a flush and someone else flopped a flush on the same board. Sure, it could happen, but it isn't that likely.

    Really, if I flop a flush, I'm willing to almost always go broke right then and there. About the only time I might not is if I have a low flush, I'm a huge stack in a MTT (top 3ish) and one of the few stacks left that could put me out is putting me all in. That would give me pause, other than that, you are ahead most of the time, get your money in now.
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    Mar 17th, 2008 (3/17/2008 6:29pm) in reply to lordxixor101

    What actually happened was I underestimated the loose player (who was the big stack and re-raised to 3000 the loose player then moved all in behind me, me only having 1800 left and thinking that what are the chances he's flopped the flush so I call. He has A7 clubs I was gutted, after the hand I thought maybe I should of folded but then again how many times is that gonna happen?? The tight player had a set of 9s so I was right to re-raise him but I think maybe from now on I'm not gonna risk my tournament life when I have so many chips even though I was thinking about the chip lead and that I must be favourite. I just think these things happen and another time I'll get my money in good.
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