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  1. libertad73 libertad73 is offline

    Aurora, CO
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    Mar 27th, 2009 (3/27/2009 4:31pm)

    Please bear with me as I'm still trying to learn.

    Villian has shown down decent hands but being the big stack at table he was pushing his chips around.

    1)Was it horrible to call his 5x raise with TT? My read was that 5x raise was weak and didn't want any callers (low to mid pp or A9 to AJ).
    2)Should I have shoved pre?
    3)Is it even worth getting into huge hand against big stack at this point in tourney?
    I'm not really worried about the results but rather how bad I played the hand.

    pokerstars Game #26427590937: Tournament #149949747, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level XII (150/300) - 2009/03/27 14:05:57 MT [2009/03/27 16:05:57 ET]
    Table '149949747 278' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: mykey_G_mac6 (21379 in chips)
    Seat 2: tos,72 (10250 in chips)
    Seat 3: *libertad73* (15360 in chips)
    Seat 4: schmelleA (6600 in chips)
    Seat 5: KindHunter (9661 in chips)
    Seat 6: sexteacher21 (3750 in chips)
    Seat 7: Mirxer (9834 in chips) is sitting out
    Seat 8: Scarrie (5691 in chips)
    Seat 9: evang1986 (4632 in chips)
    mykey_G_mac6: posts the ante 40
    tos,72: posts the ante 40
    *libertad73*: posts the ante 40
    schmelleA: posts the ante 40
    KindHunter: posts the ante 40
    sexteacher21: posts the ante 40
    Mirxer: posts the ante 40
    Scarrie: posts the ante 40
    evang1986: posts the ante 40
    Mirxer: posts small blind 150
    Scarrie: posts big blind 300
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to *libertad73* [Th Tc]
    evang1986: folds
    mykey_G_mac6: raises 1200 to 1500
    tos,72: folds
    *libertad73*: calls 1500
    schmelleA: folds
    KindHunter: folds
    sexteacher21: folds
    Mirxer: folds
    Scarrie: folds
    *** FLOP *** [Jc 6s 6c]
    mykey_G_mac6: bets 5400
    *libertad73*: raises 5400 to 10800
    mykey_G_mac6: raises 9039 to 19839 and is all-in
    *libertad73*: calls 3020 and is all-in
    Uncalled bet (6019) returned to mykey_G_mac6
    *** TURN *** [Jc 6s 6c] [9h]
    *** RIVER *** [Jc 6s 6c 9h] [Kd]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    mykey_G_mac6: shows [Ad As] (two pair, Aces and Sixes)
    *libertad73*: shows [Th Tc] (two pair, Tens and Sixes)
    mykey_G_mac6 collected 31450 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 31450 | Rake 0
    Board [Jc 6s 6c 9h Kd]
    Seat 1: mykey_G_mac6 showed [Ad As] and won (31450) with two pair, Aces and Sixes
    Seat 2: tos,72 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: *libertad73* showed [Th Tc] and lost with two pair, Tens and Sixes
    Seat 4: schmelleA folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: KindHunter folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: sexteacher21 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: Mirxer (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 8: Scarrie (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 9: evang1986 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
  2. Frank1The1Tank Frank1The1Tank is offline

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    Mar 27th, 2009 (3/27/2009 4:37pm) in reply to libertad73

    Definitely don't shove pre. If you think he's weak hes's not going to call with worse anyway. Also don't min raise flop. On the flop you should make a decision on what to do. If you really feel he has air there (I don't really think he does) then ship it in, otherwise fold. I don't hate playing this hand for set value.
     
  3. bluffslv bluffslv is offline

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    Mar 27th, 2009 (3/27/2009 4:48pm) in reply to libertad73

    This seems like a spew to me. I don't mind the call pre 1/10 of your stack to see a flop with TT. However..

    This guy leads 5400 into a 3800ish pot. The standard c-bet with a hand is going to be about 2200-2800 to leave himself room to fold with a hand like AK. 5400 is not folding to your re-reaise. So at this point you have to ask yourself what am I beating here? IMO you aren't beating any hands really that would be firing this hard at a flop like that (except a complete bluff obv)
  4. racer racer is online now

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    Mar 27th, 2009 (3/27/2009 5:22pm) in reply to Frank1The1Tank

    certainly agree with the pre flop call there, and would agree this is a 3-bet flop, but certainly not 3-betting here after villain c-bets 18 BBs- regardless of table image, i believe thats your cue to fold.
    Not to be results oriented, the J,6,6 board is fairly dry, in other situations this may have been optimal to get it all in here, but this here is tough to go busted with.
    Also, this is another situation where your 'in position' but in my mind, with this hand and your stack your probably better off to be 'out of position', because, 1. Your showing strength when you call 5x raise pre flop. 2. If your the first to bet (out of pos.) ,you show strength for 2nd time and then get 3-betted by initial raiser, I believe you have a clearer understanding of where you stand in the hand, and you likely have some room to fold without crippling yourself, given the nice stack you had to begin with.
  5. libertad73 libertad73 is offline

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    Mar 27th, 2009 (3/27/2009 5:44pm) in reply to racer

    Thanks for the input. For whatever reason I had a meltdown in this hand. Up til this hand I was playing well. Just goes to show one wrong hand played poorly and boom I'm out.
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