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  1. aarongiants aarongiants is offline

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    Oct 15th, 2008 (10/15/2008 11:16am)

    pokerstars Game #<SPAN class=yshortcuts id=lw_1224083244_4>21198304521</SPAN>: Tournament #113517576, $3.00+$0.30 Hold'em No Limit - Level XV (1000/2000) - 2008/10/14 18:19:42 ET
    Table '113517576 243' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
    Seat 1: tc1963 (23875 in chips)
    Seat 2: AL1EN (34033 in chips)
    Seat 3: kupo2210 (59672 in chips)
    Seat 4: Rurik1 (88944 in chips)
    Seat 5: norksdd (36241 in chips)
    Seat 6: aarongiants (49767 in chips)
    Seat 7: Bär_Balu (189092 in chips)
    Seat 8: fingerjammer (31694 in chips)
    Seat 9: aalyha1985 (51241 in chips)
    tc1963: posts the ante 200
    AL1EN: posts the ante 200
    kupo2210: posts the ante 200
    Rurik1: posts the ante 200
    norksdd: posts the ante 200
    aarongiants: posts the ante 200
    Bär_Balu: posts the ante 200
    fingerjammer: posts the ante 200
    aalyha1985: posts the ante 200
    tc1963: posts small blind 1000
    AL1EN: posts big blind 2000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to aarongiants [Qc Ad]
    kupo2210: folds
    Rurik1: folds
    norksdd: folds
    aarongiants: raises 4000 to 6000
    Bär_Balu: folds
    fingerjammer: folds
    aalyha1985: folds
    tc1963: folds
    AL1EN: calls 4000
    *** FLOP *** [Td Kd 9d]
    AL1EN: bets 27833 and is all-in
    aarongiants: ??

    I have no real reads on the guy but obviously in this tournament the guy could have anyting. I only have about 25BB's so its not like i have all day to wait for a better situation. Just wonder if you guys think calling here is a spew in the long run at these stakes??
  2. doubledave22 doubledave22 is offline

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    Oct 15th, 2008 (10/15/2008 11:50am) in reply to aarongiants

    definately call. Your never too crushed in the hand and sometimes ur ahead, ur pot odds are decent enough.
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  3. the_snail03 the_snail03 is offline

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    Oct 15th, 2008 (10/15/2008 11:54am) in reply to doubledave22

    Don't fold
     
  4. grapsfan grapsfan is offline Head Curmudgeon

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    Oct 15th, 2008 (10/15/2008 12:33pm) in reply to aarongiants

    You've got 12 outs to the nuts. Gotta call.
     
  5. lordxixor101 lordxixor101 is offline

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    Oct 15th, 2008 (10/15/2008 12:51pm) in reply to aarongiants

    Only one hand are you drawing dead to, and that's JQdiamonds, and really, do you think he's pushing a straight flush here, when you might bet out?

    Legitimately, at worse, you are down to 7 outs (if he has the flush already). Odds say you need to win this hand about 40% of the time to break even.

    If he hasn't flushed, you probably have 12 outs. I think this is a relatively easy call here, especially since he could be pushing as thin as KQ or something, where you are looking at 15 outs.
  6. Neek Neek is offline

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    Oct 15th, 2008 (10/15/2008 2:05pm) in reply to lordxixor101

    A call here is the right play probably 100% of the time.

    He had KT and sorry you didn't get there probably another T on the river just to rub it in.
     
  7. Gags30 Gags30 is offline

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    Oct 15th, 2008 (10/15/2008 3:07pm) in reply to doubledave22

     
    Originally Posted by doubledave22 View Post

    definately call. Your never too crushed in the hand and sometimes ur ahead, ur pot odds are decent enough.

    qft
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  8. xracer624 xracer624 is offline

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    Oct 15th, 2008 (10/15/2008 3:17pm) in reply to aarongiants

    Snap call.
  9. paidchex paidchex is offline

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    Oct 15th, 2008 (10/15/2008 5:17pm) in reply to aarongiants

    I will take the road less traveled and say fold, yeah you should fold in this spot. You basically have a flush draw. If he has a bab y flush you have 7 outs. If he has 2pair or a set you have 12 outs. Either way 99.9% of the time you are behind and drawing. If you fold you still have 43,567 correct? and aplicable m of 9, which gives you plenty of area to manuever. you call and lose....15,734 an m of just over 3, into the danger zone, short stack. call and win......71,390 an m of just under 15 you are getting the right price but why risk it on a marginal call. you are basically flipping a coin for your tournament life.... good luck i'd wait for edge
  10. gutshtallin gutshtallin is offline

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    Oct 15th, 2008 (10/15/2008 5:29pm) in reply to paidchex

     
    Originally Posted by paidchex View Post

    I will take the road less traveled and say fold, yeah you should fold in this spot. You basically have a flush draw. If he has a bab y flush you have 7 outs. If he has 2pair or a set you have 12 outs. Either way 99.9% of the time you are behind and drawing. If you fold you still have 43,567 correct? and aplicable m of 9, which gives you plenty of area to manuever. you call and lose....15,734 an m of just over 3, into the danger zone, short stack. call and win......71,390 an m of just under 15 you are getting the right price but why risk it on a marginal call. you are basically flipping a coin for your tournament life.... good luck i'd wait for edge

    LOL..please dont listen to this advice. I would say he is shoving a flush into you about 10% of the time here if that. It is almost surely a hand like a pair of kings or mid pair a fdraw. If he does have just a dry king you have 15 outs to win. I am never folding in a spot like this with the effective stacks.
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