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No idea what to do here...river spot? or badly played turn? ugh

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  1. iTakeUALLin iTakeUALLin is offline

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    Nov 3rd, 2009 (11/3/2009 3:08pm)

    Like 5 hands in...

    Full Tilt Poker Game #15772390853: $10 + $1 Sit & Go (115642655), Table 5 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 15:47:19 ET - 2009/11/03
    Seat 1: shadowheads (2,940)
    Seat 2: seminolebrave (1,455)
    Seat 4: shadosys (1,500)
    Seat 5: NorelMars (1,500)
    Seat 6: AAribeiro (1,500)
    Seat 7: iTakeUALLin (3,165)
    Seat 8: Slim02 (1,440)
    Seat 9: Patrice Maddox (1,500)
    shadosys posts the big blind of 30
    The button is in seat #2
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to iTakeUALLin [Kh Qc]
    NorelMars folds
    AAribeiro folds
    iTakeUALLin raises to 90
    Slim02 folds
    Patrice Maddox folds
    shadowheads calls 90
    seminolebrave folds
    shadosys folds
    *** FLOP *** [Qd Qs 3d]
    iTakeUALLin bets 90
    shadowheads calls 90
    *** TURN *** [Qd Qs 3d] [Ac]
    iTakeUALLin has 15 seconds left to act
    iTakeUALLin bets 180
    shadowheads raises to 360
    iTakeUALLin has 15 seconds left to act
    iTakeUALLin raises to 900
    shadowheads calls 540
    *** RIVER *** [Qd Qs 3d Ac] [Ad]

    Thanks for input
  2. Goldenad Goldenad is offline

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    Nov 3rd, 2009 (11/3/2009 3:11pm) in reply to iTakeUALLin

    you can start by folding preflop. now i check/call
     
  3. coolhandkev coolhandkev is offline

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    Nov 3rd, 2009 (11/3/2009 3:12pm) in reply to iTakeUALLin

    No point in betting anymore. In my opinion check/call > check/fold.
  4. ABorges ABorges is offline

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    Nov 3rd, 2009 (11/3/2009 3:23pm) in reply to iTakeUALLin

    Seems like he has doubled up already, can't you find out how with instant HH? In a vacuum I guess I c/f... by the river I give him a range of a random queen, a random ace, 33 and AQ. You're ahead of 33 and chop with the last queen, but there are still 2 aces left on the deck which make it more likely he's holding one. If you check he pretty much only bets when he has the ace. I see no value in betting or c/c'ing to be honest... check and hope he checks back so you can win at least chop, fold if he bets.
  5. HoldemJunkie HoldemJunkie is offline

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    Nov 3rd, 2009 (11/3/2009 3:36pm) in reply to ABorges

    At this level I have played quite a bit. I see people still just calling boards like this even with flush draw out there. It is a very tough hand but like everyone else is saying I would just check/call.

    Let us know what happened.
  6. iTakeUALLin iTakeUALLin is offline

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    Nov 3rd, 2009 (11/3/2009 6:18pm) in reply to ABorges

     
    Originally Posted by ABorges View Post

    Seems like he has doubled up already, can't you find out how with instant HH?

    here's the hand he doubled up on, it was actually the hand right before...

    Full Tilt Poker Game #15772363310: $10 + $1 Sit & Go (115642655), Table 5 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 15:46:01 ET - 2009/11/03
    Seat 1: shadowheads (1,485)
    Seat 2: seminolebrave (1,470)
    Seat 3: Lionheart310 (1,440)
    Seat 5: NorelMars (1,500)
    Seat 6: AAribeiro (1,500)
    Seat 7: iTakeUALLin (3,165)
    Seat 8: Slim02 (1,440)
    Seat 9: Patrice Maddox (1,500)
    seminolebrave posts the small blind of 15
    Lionheart310 posts the big blind of 30
    The button is in seat #1
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to iTakeUALLin [5c 6s]
    NorelMars folds
    AAribeiro folds
    iTakeUALLin folds
    Slim02 folds
    Patrice Maddox folds
    shadowheads raises to 90
    seminolebrave folds
    Lionheart310 calls 60
    *** FLOP *** [Qs 3h 9h]
    Lionheart310 checks
    shadowheads bets 195
    Lionheart310 calls 195
    *** TURN *** [Qs 3h 9h] [Jh]
    Lionheart310 checks
    shadowheads checks
    *** RIVER *** [Qs 3h 9h Jh] [Qc]
    Lionheart310 has 15 seconds left to act
    Lionheart310 bets 1,155, and is all in
    shadowheads calls 1,155
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Lionheart310 shows [6c Ah] a pair of Queens
    shadowheads shows [8s 8c] two pair, Queens and Eights
    shadowheads wins the pot (2,895) with two pair, Queens and Eights
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 2,895 | Rake 0
    Board: [Qs 3h 9h Jh Qc]
    Seat 1: shadowheads (button) showed [8s 8c] and won (2,895) with two pair, Queens and Eights
    Seat 2: seminolebrave (small blind) folded before the Flop
    Seat 3: Lionheart310 (big blind) showed [6c Ah] and lost with a pair of Queens
    Seat 5: NorelMars didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 6: AAribeiro didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 7: iTakeUALLin didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 8: Slim02 didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 9: Patrice Maddox didn't bet (folded)
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  7. ABorges ABorges is offline

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    Nov 3rd, 2009 (11/3/2009 6:51pm) in reply to iTakeUALLin

    lol okay that's very relevant. Did you remember to check that while playing the hand or did you do it just now?

    Still I'm not sure he's capable of betting worse on the river, that hand doesn't show a tendency to run big bluffs or thin value bets. Just shows he's a station. The way he played the previous hand also makes me think he would have played a random ace exactly the way he did... IDK, I think it's closer now but I still check with the intention of folding unless the bet is stupidly small. Turn play is fine BTW in answer to thread title.
  8. iTakeUALLin iTakeUALLin is offline

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    Nov 3rd, 2009 (11/3/2009 7:58pm) in reply to ABorges

    yeah i don't know that previous hand is kinda weird, but i didn't even check it til after the fact. obviously i wasn't expecting that river at all, but basically i just decided that i'd call any reasonable bet, but was folding to a shove...i checked and he insta shoved...
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