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  1. To be or not to be; that is the question.

    Well, actually, thats not exactly the question. Its more like, to retire your screen name from play or not to retire your screen name from play; that is the question.

    Im trying to decide if I should continue playing under my current screen names at various sites or, instead, stop using them and create new ones. Id like to know what the Pocket Fives community thinks about this topic.

    I think most here understand that there are more than a few on-line players who use multiple screen names, most of which they keep secret. I assume their reason for doing this is they believe the anonymity gives them an edge. Its hard to disagree that the better your screen name is known the better your game is known, but is this really a disadvantage.

    Ive asked a few of the name pros I've played against whether they believe their celebrity has hurt their game and, somewhat surprisingly (to me, at least), some have said they believe instead of hurting, its actually helped. Their argument boiled down to something about the intimidation factor outweighing any edge they lose through others knowing their style well.

    So I suppose there are arguments to be made on both sides, but Im leaning towards creating new names. <SPAN> </SPAN>I would continue to post here as DoubleLucky (I wouldnt want sheets and the others to get bored), but I think Im on my last few days of playing under my current screen names.

    Does anyone care to voice an opinion on this topic?
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  2. Keep the name
    to be honest, the very good players will re-figure out your style and tendancies (to the degree they can and that you display them) after playing a few tournies with you under your new name ANYWAY.... and the players who are average wont figure them out either way, but you may have the intimidation factor as a weapon with them.
    just my 2 cents...
    (and this is from someone who HAS EXPERIENCE playing under at least 1 other name on 1 major site in the past...)
     
  3. Good question, I for one use multiple screen names especially for cash games I would not think it is as important for tourneys.
     
  4. for mtt's i say use your name as an advantage. If you refer to ganks post about his turbo sng's people just call him with anything to say they busted a WSOP champ.

    sad as that is its the truth. especially on PS. the site si all about normal average joe's making something for themselves and they crave to have a big name at their table.

    As for cash games though keeping a low profile is excellent unless you have a specific image set up on purpose.

    (example you play for 1 week and every time you start you all in preflop a few times to loosin up the table or appear donkish or you come expecting to lose 1-2 buy-ins knowing youll get paid off later. People who dont understand what your doing will follow you around thinking your a live one and continue to pay you off.

    The pro's and con's are pretty close, it all comes down ro you inderstanding whats going around you and making it work. I made a new MTT name just because i was bored of readzie. I still use it for cash games though.

    I keep the readzie name because everyone still thinks that i tilt like mad and get way off my game. So i let them continue to think that until they figure it out and once my extra edges are worn off ill start a new alias. Shrug, thats poker. :) Making edges
  5. i second readzie. in MTT your screen name will be advantaeous to you. I was under te impression that you were primarily a tourny player DoubleLucky, though obv,. i could be wrong. I would say when your playing in MTT use DL - as far as cash games, or sitngos, or whatever else it is that you play regularly I could see how a new name could give you a bit of an edge.
    I also think in a weird way you almost owe it to DoubleLucky .. let 'him' get the MTT recognition and tear up the cash games as someone else.
    gl dude
  6. LOL. That's an intersting perspective. I owe it to DoubleLucky? I'll have to give that some thought. I'm not generally prone to anthropormorphizing, but I suppose, in a sense, I have won a lot on money with ol' DL.

    Still, my concern is what's best for winning money in the future. Maybe one of you can elaborate as to why you believe anonimity is useful in cash games, but not MTTs.
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  7. The fact that you pose the question in an open forum provides it's own answer
  8. The reason I think it is more important in cash games is that I have played so many hands against the same ppl not to mention alot of the lower stake ppl whatch and then some of them end up playing higher stakes at some point. As as much as one tries to disguise their play by mixing it up I am sure that I have certain patterns that I am not aware of and someone or many someones might be be aware of them. I think in tourneys the amount of hands u play against any one opponent is relatively low. It is def. easy to get a general understanding of how a double lucky or a bax or a sheets plays but there just isnt as much depth to the knowledge that u can pick up on your tourney oppt, Hope this helps.

    Thor
     
  9. whether it is nobler in the mind to suffer
    the slings and arrows of outrageous Fortune?
    or to take arms against a sea of troubles
    and in opposing end them . To die, to sleep- no more
    and by sleep we say to end the heartache
    and the thousand natural shocks that the flesh is heir too
    Tis' a consumation devotely to be wished. To die, to sleep.
    To sleep-perchance to dream-Aye, there's the rub
    for in that sleep of death what dreams may come
    when we have shuffled off this mortal coil
    must give us pause. There's the respect
    that makes calamity of so-long-life
    For who would bear the whips and scorns of time?
    the oppresor's wrong, the proud man's contumely
    the pangs of despised love, the law's delay
    the insolence of office, and the spurns
    that patient merit of the unworthy takes
    when he himself could he quietus make
    with a bare bodkin? who would fardels' bear
    to grunt and sweat under a weary life?

    damn

    thats all I remember off the top of my head, I would mess up the nextline

    we did Hamlet a few weeks ago

    lol u just made me waste like 5 mins

    I would keep the DoubleLucky name, but this is from someone with literally over 15 screennames...
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  10. OK, I'll bite. How's that?
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  11. I'll be looking for TripleLucky or HalfAsLucky
  12. Well, but does it really matter that much if the hands are against the same opponent or not?

    A MTT player may not play as many hands against a specific opponent as a cash game player does, but he's still playing as many hands per hour and those hands are really no less useful to opponents in general.

    Maybe a specific opponent gets better info in a cash game, but my concern isn't any particular opponent, it's all opponents.
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  13. Too obvious.

    I was thinking of something more subtle like, "sheetssux" or "Dummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmy'satwit,"

    All suggestions taken with a huge grain of salt.
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  14. just to clarify why i personally think it makes a bigger difference in cash games is the fact that you should be willing to exploit every edge you have no matter how slight... so if you have more information on an opponent than he does on you that should be to your advantage. if he has played with doublelucky for 2000 hands but you, as multiple aliases, know youve actually played with him five times that much without him knowing.
    of course all these things apply to MTT as well but it's much easier to exploit your edge when you can't go bust with a bad card.. or a few or whatever.
    on the other hand I am much more apt to to avoid big confrontations in a tournament with someone I know to be a very solid player. I'm not really sure if players avoiding you in tournaments would be to your advantage or not, but I think most players would think twice before repoppin doublelucky with rags when its easy to do it to joesmith123..so if you want people to play you like joesmith123 then change it, like you said you're interest is in the potential money won, so if you want to be able to use the pre-existing image that you've created already you have to let people reckognize you, if not....
    just my thoughts, this is an interesting twist to poker that could have never been possible without the wonderful online poker world..
    let me know what you decide...(you dont need to name names) but im curious.
    PS if ActionJeff is still reading im curious if you play most of the big tournies as ActionJeff and only use the aliases for cash games or if you just mix it up all the time..
  15. I've played under other names and keep going back to Sophiea. I didn't find the anonimity (sp?) particularly helpful or hurtful. Online players mostly play their hands and not their opponents. At least with Sophiea, I have identity, which is worth something- and poker players have ego's (hard to imagine any great poker players taking on a disguise during WPT or WSOP play). I felt somewhat "isolated" while playing as AA0K and Cisco Houston. In the end, my results reflect the improvements in my game more than my name. So, personally, I'd hate to lose double lucky only to rediscover you as tybadjad321 or bobby bojewgamble. You have been successful, will continue to be successful, and that comes from the quality of your play and not the sound of your name.
  16. Maybe sell your name on ebay?
     
  17. DL, it really depends on how you play (which Im going to learn when Im writing your interview..haha), but seriously, if I saw DoubleLucky at a table with me, Id probably lay down some hands that I would push against other players. I read a great book that summed it up like this "The top pros play these big tourneys for value, the others play it for experience. Thats how the pros accumulate so many chips in the beginning, they push against people who are afraid to bust out early because they dont want their "experience" to be a short one."

    If you change your screen name, people are not going to "fear" you when you sit down. I suppose if you push your hands, the end result will be the same, people not wanting to bust out and folding, but people will not avoid you, you wont get the "Im laying this down because I dont want to tangle with DoubleLucky". And Im guessing that wins you a LOT of chips. On the other hand, good players will not recognise you either and think you a fish. One of the most dangerous things in poker is to underestimate your opponant and no one is going to do that when you are DoubleLucky...just my two cents!
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  18. 1....U WILL LOSE ALL YOUR NOTES WHEN U CHANGE SCREENAMES..

    2... I WONT KNOW WHO MY FAVORITE SHEEEPBANGER IS..

    3....I STILL CANT POST ON TILT MR WISE
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  19. As mentioned above numerous times, Id recommend keeping the name DL. At the very least, I would expect that you will have the respect at the tables that could definitely be an advantage. For instance, consider the name of Poker Ho. He has the reputation (deservedly so) for playing any 2 cards at almost anytime, which helps him get paid off handsomely when he is actually holding a monster.

    However, I would recommend that you change your last name to BLuffington.
  20. Who is Doublelucky? What's the point in changing and already anonymous name?

    jk :-D
     
  21. GOT BETTER NAME FOR HIM......

    MELUVDEMSHEEP
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  22. All opponents is not mch risk it is specific oppts that have seen so many of your hands that they dont just know style(thor is TA) they know patterns(he min raises on huge hands after chking turn i dont but u get the idea) so in my opinion let DL live

    Thor
     
  23. So you see my point. It's really not all that clear which is the better choice, but my sense is that changing names would be better.

    I think we can all agree that opponents would know less about my style if I changed my screen name, so the question is really just do you gain enough from your reputation to offset that. Frankly, I doubt that you do.

    Yes, I believe their are people who are more prone to laying down hands, but is that really a good thing? Since one of the biggest mistakes weak players make is not laying down hands often enough, maybe my "reputation" is just encouraging them to play better against me. I certainly can't say that I've seen any tendency to let me steal at will, so I don't think people take these things to the sort of extreme that would clearly give me an advantage. If I played a more loose, aggressive style maybe I would get more of an edge, but I don't believe that style really works long-term on-line.

    On the other hand, some of my "old tricks" have become fairly well known to the better players and would doubtless work better if I began using a new name. And there's no doubt all the people who've invested time and effort into compiling huge Poker Tracker databases would lose that advantage, as well.

    I'm still leaning towards adopting new names.
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  24. Hey, Todd, if you had been doing your job properly around here (instead of tooling around in that unbelievably over-priced toy you call a car) I would have known about the new, good structures on Paradise long before I actually did.

    Now I have to retire the name BigBadWolf? at Paradise even though I've barely used it.

    Too bad, BigBadWolf was a CB handle I used way back in college in the 70's and it always reminds me of all the girls who just couldn't resist being "Little Red Ridinghood" for a night.

    Ah, good times.
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  25. You've made some great points. Maybe consider changing your name at one of the sites to see if you notice a drastic change in play over the next few months.

    That being said, I think you've inspired me to change my name. WAK needs to be retired out of boredom. But unfortunately, it will only take me about 3 played hands for people to realize that Im still the same ole HEEEE-HAAAAWWW!!
  26. I think as an interesting challenge (if you do decide to change names) will be not to tell anyone, especially the pocket 5'S staff and see if/how fast you can get your new named ranked. This would be very interesting.
  27. "Little Red Ridinghood" WOW

    Definite good times!
     
  28. I will agree with this one for sure.. Try and move into the rankings without anyone knowing its you. Then as soon as you do come on and say not only am I ranked as DL but now as "johndoe" It would really be interesting to see if someone could pull this off or not.
  29. It would be extremely difficult to have 2 different identities ranked at the same time. You don't get ranked overnight, and the system is based on playing on multiple sites. DL would need to be willing to play on multiple sites with this new "identity" and still maintain his other player names as well. If he drops the DL (among his other existing names), eventually they will fall out of the ranking system. Sailor Lobell was ranked for some time, but a cold spell put him out of the top 70. So if a "John Doe" starts showing up everywhere and placing high in all the big tournaments, it would be quite interesting if DL was never seen playing in the same tournament. P5s would figure it out.
  30. Im not insinuating that he keep playing as DL and try to get another name ranked. I'm insinuating he start over. Yes DL would fall off the board, but "DL" would not of actually gone anywhere if he started playing a different name tomorrow. He would still be the same player wouldn't he? Yes he would. The point being, would that same player without the benefit of reputation be able to get ranked coming out of nowhere as an "unknown"? I believe that he could but that it would be a very difficult challenge. Be interesting to see since he was thinking of changing his name anyway. Whats the point of changing his name if 2 weeks later we hear DoubleLucky playing as LittleRedRidingHood won another tourney.