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  1. Wotan Wotan is offline

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    Mar 26th, 2006 (3/26/2006 9:35am)

    I am currently reading Mike Cappelletti's book "How to win at OHL Poker". On page 30 he states playing a hand such as 3456(what he calls low bags) as "being not playable at a profit in most games. Even after most good flops they are drawing for second or third best hands"

    That makes sense and i agreed with his thought.

    But while playing around on the card calculator here i ran these hands together in 3 way action.

    A2KQ(double suited)
    AJ10K(double suited)
    3456(double suited)

    depending on how you switched the suits around the percentages could vary a little, but the 3456 was always the favorite for high, ranging from 35-45% and was a slight favorite even over the A2 hand for low, usually around 1%.

    Any explanations on how this can be?

    thanks
  2. gamblingfun gamblingfun is offline

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    Mar 26th, 2006 (3/26/2006 9:41am) in reply to Wotan

    well your running that 3456hand up against hands that are not in its range... meaning you wont be drawing to a lower str8 and ur only giving 1 other hand a chance at a lower lowhand (A2KQds).

    And the A2KQds and AJ10Kds are all in the same range and taking each others outs.
  3. Wotan Wotan is offline

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    Mar 26th, 2006 (3/26/2006 9:51am) in reply to gamblingfun

    thanks gamblingfun for the explanation, that makes sense what you say, i should have considered that.

    so i eliminated the high hand and ran these heads up

    A2KQ double suited
    3456 double suited
    with none of the suits being the same, the 3456 still was only 1% lower for high and 32 to 23 fav. for low..

    A23K was a big fav. for low(40 to 11) but was still basically same for high vs 3456.

    I guess i am just surprised that a hand such as 3456 would do as well as it does in simulations.
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  4. Nova2000 Nova2000 is offline

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    Mar 26th, 2006 (3/26/2006 10:16am) in reply to Wotan

    In Omaha there are very rare situations where one hand is going to be more than a 60:40 favorite over another hand...Just the way the math works out with the permutations that you can come up with when you have 4 cards in your hand...
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